Track Question...

Officer "B" Oct 31, 2006

  1. Officer "B"

    Officer "B" TrainBoard Member

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    Can anyone give me their opinion on the best track to use to lay down on the layout? Since the layout is very large, I'm surely not going to hand lay my own track. I would think that is time consuming. What's better, Code 70, Code 83, Code 100? Who makes the better track, Atlas, Peco, etc....
    I would like to start going out and getting some track but unsure which to buy.

    Scott
     
  2. MasonJar

    MasonJar TrainBoard Member

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    It all really depends...

    What are you trying to replicate? Code 70 is even too big for some of the older track that would have been in place in the first half of the 20th century. Code 100 is good for today's heavy mainline.

    I think most people look at the relative size of the rail, with Code 100 or 83 used for mainlines, and Code 83 or 70 for sidings and branches.

    I have used Atlas Code 83 flex with the "new" Walthers/Shinohara Code 83 turnouts. While the tie size and spacing is slightly different, they go together well, and the differences will be hidden by painting/weathering.

    A friend of mine uses MicroEngineering turnouts and flex (Code 83) and it also looks good. However, the flex is not like Atlas - once you bend it it stays bent.

    On the modules at www.hotrak.ca, most members use Peco turnouts and Atlas track. The Pecos are reliable, and the spring action makes sure that the points stay thrown.

    Good luck!

    Andrew
     
  3. Officer "B"

    Officer "B" TrainBoard Member

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    I have a pretty large layout planned at this time. It's going to have some different things incorporated into such as a waterfront area with car floats and ferries. It's going to have in intermodal yard as well. I'm just using some of the things I've been lucky enough to view in my lifetime.
    I'm just taking a few memories and putting them together on one layout.

    Scott
     
  4. loco1999

    loco1999 TrainBoard Supporter

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    I think Atlas code 83 or Peco code 83 would be good.

    I am currently using Peco code 83 with ground
    throws on a small HO layout and I really like it.
     
  5. moose

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    Code 83

    I'm using the Walthers switches too except I can't find any #5 LH's! I need 5 of them.

    Track wise, I'm leaning towards the Walthers flex.
     
  6. Dave Jones

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    I have been really impressed with the Atlas code 83 flex. Believe it's a little more expensive than the code 100, but the improvement in appearance and ease of use easily makes up for the slight price difference.

    The turnouts on the code 83 are also Atlas which, while they may not be as realistic as some, are easily available and definitely do the job. Am hoping that as soon as I get around to weathering the turnouts, their appearance won't be that different from the MEW or Walthers.

    The code 70 I've used to date has been weathered MEW. Thankfully it has been sidings off the code 83 as, to me, it is very stiff and difficult to work with. For the branch which will be code 70 with c. 55 sidings, I'm going to try the MEW unweathered flex. This seems (so far), more flexible than the MEW weathered flex.

    The code 70 turnouts are also by MEW and I can see that some slight work with a file may be necessary. If I need more turnouts, I'll give the Shinohara a try.
     
  7. pjb

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    TILLIG track systems Code 83

    The best appearing rail is TILLIG's , and since it is
    now readily available in North America you should
    examine it. MODEL RAILROADER's editor reviewed it
    in, I believe, the Feb 2003 issue.

    They do not have the unrealistic( to varying degrees) frogs, found on competitors turnouts, but one made
    of rail as on the prototype. The movable
    track blade is not a broken (jointed ) piece of track,
    but a single piece of rail, again as on the prototype.
    They produce curveable as well as fixed
    switches in several sizes of frogs.

    If you are considering street running in connect-
    ion with your rail-marine operations then they
    produce a product very suitable for this purpose.
    They make a system of street trackage, called
    LUNA track, that is most compatible with
    conventional two rail DC operations.

    Girder rail is the best appearing of this form of trackage, but HARTEL, SWEDTRAM, and the
    US made ORR trackage are
    difficult to bend if the original
    shape has to be changed. As made it
    is only usable for overhead trolley
    or catenary powered systems, because
    the rails are interconnected
    with NS metal strips and therefore have a
    common ground.
    This means that extensive
    cutting apart of their cast or molded trackage,
    coupled with elaborate and time consuming
    insulation of their movable single point
    and frog turnouts are required unless you are
    operating off an overhead tram wire.

    In any case don't take my word for it,
    or for that matter anyone else's opinion.
    GoogleUp the string " tillig model railroad track",
    and see for yourself what is there. Also given
    the expense represented by track on a large
    model railroad, buy a few types and look
    them over. TILLIG, ATLAS, PECO, MICRO
    ENGINEERING and, one assumes, all the other
    Code 83 trackage options should be inter-
    connectible without predjudice. I know
    what I decided, after looking them over,
    but I don't think any of them won't work
    out. For me the appearance and details
    of the switches made TILLIG's products my
    basis answer.
    I also have ME trackage as well, because it was immediately obtainable, and own some tediously worked over girder rail that despite all the
    cutting, insulating , and jumper running
    has only its appearance to recommend it;
    not its operational dependability. Luna track,
    doesn't look as real, but installed- it seems
    I am the only one who notices this shortcoming.
    Visitors seem to think it is great looking stuff.
    In any event that is tangential to the main
    matter.
    Good-Luck, with whatever you choose.
    PJB
     
  8. StickyMonk

    StickyMonk TrainBoard Member

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    I would only use Peco, but I always have.
     
  9. friscobob

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    I'm mostly an Atlas guy, but I use ME, Shinohara, and Peco with success. I stay with Atlas because of cost, and Micro Engineering because it's the only company I know of that has code 70 flextrack. Shinohara is a bit pricey, IMO.

    Given all that, check out where you can get great prices for flex track- no reason to pay full retail price for anything if you can get away with it.
     
  10. fsm1000

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    I think that once you lay it down, paint it, adjust it, make sure everything is 'right'. I find that hand laying my track takes as much time as other ways. But I have been handlaying for years though. I also find it relaxing to cut out the ties, dye them and lay them out, but that's me :D
    I haven't used flex track for decades except on occasion as a template, other then that I don't use commercial track for anything. I enjoy making my own turnouts etc as well.

    Not sure that helps you out at all.

    I also find that hand layed track, even if not done well, has a certain 'look' to it that manufactured track can't compete with. But that's me :)
     
  11. alexbnfan

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    I use Peco Turnouts, with a brand called GT flextrack (you might not have them in the States), the only complaint is that it doesnt bend real wellm, so i use Peco in my curves.
     
  12. YoHo

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    I plan to use code 100 on the mainline, because, well, it's easy to find, cheaper, and with weathering it will look fine to my rivet deprived brain. I think you need to evaluate how important rail accuracy is to you, because code 83 does cost more then 100 for the flex and the turnouts. You need to figure out how important that is to you.


    If I win the lottery, then I'll switch to code 83 or 70, but until then, the difference isn't even worth one penny to me.
     

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