Decal removal

jim157 May 28, 2008

  1. jim157

    jim157 TrainBoard Member

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    I need to remove a number decal off a kato loco, which would be the best method of doing so. Have a replacment decal just to change one number that way do not have 2 of the same road number
     
  2. denny99

    denny99 TrainBoard Member

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    Have you tried Micro-Sol?
     
  3. AB&CRRone

    AB&CRRone TrainBoard Supporter

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    If it is actually a decal and not a pad printed number you would need to remove the overcoating in order for the Micro-sol to soak it off. A pencil eraser might get off the overcoating. If it is a pad printed number you will have a hard time removing it. Better to paint over the old number before using a decal.

    If the number you want to change is amenable just hidng it with a new decal is the easiest. A 3 becomes an 8, a 1 becomes a 4, etc. Not too many numbers are amenable.


    Ben
     
  4. skipgear

    skipgear TrainBoard Member

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    I will second the notion of paint over it. I just dipped a new Walthers GP38-2 shell last night and the lettering was the last thing to come off. The paint was gone in just a few minutes in the denatured alcohol. I had to scrub to get the pad printed numbers off and they only came off when the alcohol finally go to the original shell paint underneath the lettering.

    It seems everything today is pad printed and you risk damaging the underlying paint trying to remove the printing.

    There are some products out there that are supposed to work but I have no experience with them.
     
  5. jim157

    jim157 TrainBoard Member

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    Thanks for all the help will look at painting over it with the new number no one will notice
     
  6. Pete Nolan

    Pete Nolan TrainBoard Supporter

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    I've had pretty good luck scraping off numbers--decalled or painting--with the point of a very sharp exacto blade. It takes a lot of patience and a very light touch to remove the number without scarring the underlying paint noticeably. It will scar the paint some, but the new number will usually hide that.
     
  7. bfc1230

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    Jim;
    I have just finished removeing the lettering from a pair of UP SD40-2's for FEC use.

    The letters and numbers(but not the paint) came off easily by using a Q-tip and alcohol. After rubbing it in real well and getting most of it off, use an eraser with some alcohol on it to finish up. By the way, my alcohol had a mint scent to it, don't
    know if that means anything!
    Hope this helps.........John
     
  8. AB&CRRone

    AB&CRRone TrainBoard Supporter

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    Peppermint schnapps? [​IMG]


    Ben
     
  9. bfc1230

    bfc1230 TrainBoard Member

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    Yeah, what is Jethro Tull gonna do without any "Locomotive Breath"?
    Interesting how it took the lettering off rather easily, but had almost no effect on the paint. Oh well, whatever works. John
     
  10. r_i_straw

    r_i_straw Mostly N Scale Staff Member

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    I have always had good luck using a piece of white Pentel erasure mounted in the chuck of my Dremil tool. At slow speed it takes a while but the numbers disappear leaving a nice smooth surface for decals to adhere to. Only a few times I have managed to get a little too aggressive and remove some of the paint underneath also.
     
  11. Pete Nolan

    Pete Nolan TrainBoard Supporter

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    Most of the isopropyl alcohol sold is 70% strength, and sometimes manufacturers add scents to it. That should make no difference in paint removal, but it might in cleaning track. I have to special order 91% from my pharmacy. It just works a little faster.

    I've stopped using isopropyl for cleaning tracks with my CMC machine. Acetone does a better job and, with the drip properly adjusted, does not create any noticeable fumes in the train room, nor reach the plastics ties to make them brittle.
     
  12. MRL

    MRL TrainBoard Member

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    Yep with those kato units I just take some 70 or 91 iso on a q-tip and put it on the number or letter and let it set a second or two usualy no more! Begin rubbing with a pencil eraser and after a while the thing, number or letter will come off!
     
  13. lrmcstitch

    lrmcstitch TrainBoard Member

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    I just took off a Chesapeake and Ohio logo and all the numbers off a Kato loco. I rubbed on some Micro-Sol with a Q-tip then, before it dried, I used a pencil eraser and a little rubbing. It all came off fairly easy. It was an older F3A so I don't know if they were decals or stamped.
     
  14. Buzz Lenander

    Buzz Lenander TrainBoard Member

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    I have used Pine-Sol to remove the lettering on Atlas GP-38's by applying the Pine-Sol on the numbers, letting it set for a few minutes, then rubbing with a Micro-Brush or Q-tip. The numbers came off easily, with no damage to the paint. Clear coat with Polly Scale Gloss, decal the new numbers, and then Clear Coat with Polly Scale Flat to finish and seal the decals in place.

    Buzz Lenander
     
  15. OC Engineer JD

    OC Engineer JD Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    You may want to consider removing the entire number, instead of just one. If the decals are not the exact same size as the printed ones on the model it will be really noticable. Change the whole number with decals, they will all be the same size. :)
     

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