I remember when I was just a lad my father had a Lionel O Gauge "Steam Turbine", it looked like a Steam Locomotive, it believe it had a 6-8-6 wheel arrangement, correct me if wrong. I also think it had P.R.R. badge on the boiler front, a very nice looking engine. I am wondering what the Pennsy designation was for it... Did anyone ever produce this locomotive in N Scale ???? It would be a very neat looking engine in N to say the least. I guess this is another one besides the GP-60M & B that I would hope would be produced. fatalxsunrider43
Here's the prototype: PRR S2 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia According to Spookshow (Mark) there was a brass S1, no S2: Oriental Limited/Samhongsa (Korea) Brass 6-4-4-6 PRR S-1
Oooh..oooh....oooh, thats it !!!!!!! you'all have to admit, that this locomotive has as much if not more character than any FEF, Northern, Big Boy or Challenger, and even more unique. Man oh man, 6-8-6, and what a power house. Someone needs to do this in N Scale, I hope this becomes an N Scale reality. fatalxsunrider43
it was done in N scale as posted above According to Spookshow (Mark) there was a brass S1, no S2: Oriental Limited/Samhongsa (Korea) Brass 6-4-4-6 PRR S-1
Actually,the locomotive he's talking about is the S2,not the S1,they're totally different.The S1 is like a T1,a streamlined duplex steam locomotive with 2 sets of 4 driven wheels each powered by a pair of cylinders.the S2 is a freight locomotive,driven by a turbine.Samhongsa made the S1,not the S2..They're as different from each other as a NYC streamlined Hudson and a C&O Allegheny...
Yes, I was going to reply to that, unfortunetly it has NOT been done in N Scale, from what I see , the S2 is the one I am talking about and it has NOT been done, the S1 has been done in N Scale. I thought it was pretty clear, but thats OK, it is the S2 we want, or that I want, 6-8-6, hopefully we can start talking to manufacturers. fatalxsunrider43
While your at it talking to those manufactures about turbines, I'll take a N&W Jawn Henry and a C&O turbine too...:tb-biggrin::tb-biggrin::tb-biggrin:
The inexplicable part isn't why it isn't made in N scale (there was only one production locomotive and it was essentially a failure) it's why Lionel chose it and made it almost the 'standard' BIG ENGINE for train sets. Heck, I remember those. They'd pull every car you could find and the cat as well. Even as a kid I couldn't understand why it didn't have cylinders..
Yes..Wether the cat wanted to go or not...I had a non Magna traction 2020 years ago,traded it for a pair of N scale steamers,a Y6b,and a Con Cor S2..Still have them..
The PRR was also planning on a C&O type turbine locomotive. They announced the project publically, but nothing ever came of it. AFAIK it remained only a concept, no actual plans or specifications ever carried out. EDIT: More info on the S2 can be found here: http://crestlineprr.com/duplexexperimentals.html#s2
I am still kicking my self for selling my old 2020. Still a classic engine to run around the christmas tree. I think it would be a great addition to the n scale line but in all honesty (my opion 100% so no flaming here!) we need other N scale steam before the S2 hits the rails. Really need that 2-6-6-6 thundering accross my layout with a good sound decoder. Come on Bachmann, we know your doing a pretty good job, just try really hard and make a good 2-6-6-6
I read an article a few years ago about this locomotive, as I have a deep affection for it too. It embodies that "Pennsy Steam" look on the front, and because Lionel made it so popular it was a benchmark steamer for them for many many years. Even today at swap meets, it seems every O scale vendor has at least one of these, and they "ain't cheap". I always wanted one when I was a kid back in the fifties, but Dad bought me a 2-6-4 instead. The other ironic thing seems Lionel had more than one tooling from which to make the model, as some of the turbine locos appear larger and more detailed than others. Needless to say, they are sold with just about every tender that Lionel has. Ironically, according to the article, Pennsy had only one of these locos, on an field experiment basis. Try it out on the rails for a few months and thousands of miles, and evaluate the cost and operation. According to the article, it was used for quite some time, but PRR determined it was not cost effective to put into their mainstream fleet. Way too much fuel input for the power received. At least that was the article. If I remember correctly, it was back when Craftsman had the historical trains page and column. I subscribed to that magazine mainly for that. Great loco, but I agree with the mainstream.... other locos will probably be done before this one. But Lionel made a lot of money modeling thousands of models that had only one prototype. Ken "FloridaBoy" Willaman
Yes...I am sure all the manufactures will jump right on making that locomotive. Afterall...there must be thousands of modelers with 72 inch RADIUS curves that thing would need to negotiate a layout...LOL :tb-biggrin: .
My Father still has his Lionel engine of this steamer. It's a bit beat up, went through a flood, and still runs. I loved it as a kid, even thought I don't care for Pennsy. It's such a beast.
Yes, I hear you, if they made this locomotive, they'd also sell more track so everyone who purchased one could expand their radius'. LOL ! I would estimate that this engine is not alot bigger than a Northern, I'd have to see drawings first to be sure. fatalxsunrider43
Well, GP-60M & B is probably been spoken more here than Spanish, and for the southland, that's saying alot. When at the Ontario show I spoke to the Bachmann reps about it, and they reacted with pensiveness. So, we'll have to wait and see if it come out. fatalxsunrider43
I don't think a four axled wheelbase with with 3 axle trucks would be much of a problem on reasonably sized radius track. But it was a huge machine--weighed about a million pounds (with coal and water). That would scale down to about 4 ounces in N scale, so a model ought to be able to pull OK!
The Lionel version was probably designed to negotiate curves so tight they'd make an N scaler cringe.
^ The middle drivers have no flanges, and the leading a trailing truck have huge sway bars. It negotiates some ridiculous curves!
