Diesel refuelling in/near passenger depots

PhilH Aug 21, 2015

  1. PhilH

    PhilH TrainBoard Member

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    Hi..I have seen a photo from the early 60s of a passenger train being refuelled during a stop at a passenger depot. This was a simple set up utilising a tank car with hoses run to the locomotives. My question is was there ever a more refined version of this with a permanent tank and stand within the passenger depot boundaries so the locomotive/s could be refuelled during the station stop?

    Many thanks for any replies/information on this subject.

    Edit...apologies if this is not in the correct section of the forum
     
  2. Kenneth L. Anthony

    Kenneth L. Anthony TrainBoard Member

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    I think I remember in 1972 or 1973 seeing the warbonnet Santa Fe F-7s on the Amtrak "Texas Chief" being refueled from tank trucks at the Houston Union Station before beginning run to Chicago. May have a slide (which I have not scanned yet...) Houston station site and much of station building is now part of Minute Maid baseball stadium.
     
  3. Randy Stahl

    Randy Stahl TrainBoard Supporter

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    Don't forget it was important to water the trains as well. This was often done at the station.

    Randy
     
  4. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    I've seen pictures showing a fair number of such locations with stand pipe/hose setups for fuel.
     
  5. cajon

    cajon TrainBoard Member

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    If your MR is freelance you can do whatever you want doing as already said. Most of the ones I've seen have fuel trucks or tank cars nearby. Don't forget about sand for the locos. Also water & ice for the cars. If you're following prototype there's pix that can be found on the internet or in your books on your favorite RRs. Also do a Google search & searches on this forum plus the many other MR & prototype forums out there.
     
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  6. PhilH

    PhilH TrainBoard Member

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    Thanks for the replies. The layout certainly is freelance so I think a refuelling stand will appear sometime soon!
     
  7. randgust

    randgust TrainBoard Member

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    Winslow apparently had fueling facilities at either far end of the passenger platform for many years. Whatever was going on was underground, only the hoses visible, and it wasn't just water. I'm not sure when this was shut down though, as there have been fueling pads inside the yard, on the main line, and on the lead to what was the turntable. Both ends of the platform apparently had fueling hose connections, no cranes.

    Winslow has had about six different locations for locomotive fueling over the years, it's a moving target.

    There's also an intriguing story that the "Super C' was refueled on a regular basis by spotting a tank car beside it until the main-line fueling pad was built, which leads me to believe there must have been a period when the passenger platform fueling was shut down and the main line pad wasn't built yet.
    Today, the fueling pad is a separate location just west of where the original main line one was, and the main line fuel pad seems to be vacant and just used as a platform for crew changes, with a signal bridge plopped right on top of it.
     

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