Patentable (your opinion)?

RT_Coker Apr 23, 2015

  1. passenger1955

    passenger1955 TrainBoard Member

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    good luck. Stay positive, and focus on making it work (not this legal crap). Having a working prototype you can share with people will probably go a long way.
     
  2. RT_Coker

    RT_Coker TrainBoard Supporter

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  3. DCESharkman

    DCESharkman TrainBoard Member

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    Good luck!
     
  4. ScaleCraft

    ScaleCraft TrainBoard Member

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    "Patent Pending" is a challenge. You want to come out with something and maybe we get a patent?
    And sue your socks off?
    Watched that with AistoCra...ft in LS. Their new prime mover gearboxes that sip power..."Patent Pending". When they got the patent, it was cosmetic only, nothing to do with all axles driven.
    We have done radi0 control for over 25 years of model trains. In fact, doing so now.
    We also have Blue Tooth control of the latest throttles.
    The big issue is fighting it. Just to appeal to the Patent Department costs you a non-refundable $10K.
    I remember when The Genius Wolf tried to patent back emf. Hogwash.
    Have fun!
    Dave
     
  5. DCESharkman

    DCESharkman TrainBoard Member

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    As I have thought about this a little more, your approach is a variation of radio remote control. The difference is just the type of radio interface, and that becomes an extension of existing patents. This may lead to a denial of your patent since there is no creation of your own, meaning you did not come up with a radio protocol. Simply using an existing protocol for a variational purpose, may not be enough. BlueTooth is in use for many types of radio remote control from keyboards and mice, to ear sets and storage devices. So there is no really new idea here to use it to control a remote device whether it is a train or a keyboard.

    I am not an attorney but am an engineer with several patents, so I just am presenting my intuition here.

    Here is an example :

    Most RF/Microwave equipment uses what is called a superheterodyne receiver. This involves using a local oscillator to remove the signal from the carrier. This has been in play for decades and still in use today.

    The patentable replacement to this is the ability to digitally sample at the carrier frequency and then remove the carrier frequency using adaptable digital filtering. This was developed in 1993. A patent was not applied for here, but only the originator (a very good friend of mine) can make it work, all copies or other attempts have failed.

    The point is here there is a totally unique replacement for the superheterodyne approach, and that is why it was patentable. Since the origination was 20+ years ago, it is not able to be patented now either.

    As I said, just my intuition based on experience.
     
  6. RT_Coker

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    David,
    Just for the record this is not my (the original poster’s) patent application.
    Bob
     

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