From the German website All-American Trains: announcements of new releases from now until 2004 from LifeLike's Proto2000 line: LifeLike H0 Proto 2000 NEW: EMD SD50 / scheduled for end of September 2003: 30830 SD50 Chessie System orange/yellow/blue 1. # US-$ 140,00 / € 119,00 30831 SD50 Chessie System orange/yellow/blue 2. # US-$ 140,00 / € 119,00 30832 SD50 Conrail blue/white 1. # US-$ 140,00 / € 119,00 30833 SD50 Conrail blue/white 2. # US-$ 140,00 / € 119,00 30834 SD50 Conrail blue/white 3. # US-$ 140,00 / € 119,00 30835 SD50 Kansas City Southern gray/red lettering 1. # US-$ 140,00 / € 119,00 30836 SD50 Kansas City Southern gray/red lettering 2. # US-$ 140,00 / € 119,00 30837 SD50 Missouri Pacific UP yellow/gray 1. # US-$ 140,00 / € 119,00 30838 SD50 Missouri Pacific UP yellow/gray 2. # US-$ 140,00 / € 119,00 30839 SD50 Norfolk & Western black/white 1. # US-$ 140,00 / € 119,00 30840 SD50 Norfolk & Western black/white 2. # US-$ 140,00 / € 119,00 30841 SD50 Seaboard System gray/red/yellow 1. # US-$ 140,00 / € 119,00 30842 SD50 Seaboard System gray/red/yellow 2. # US-$ 140,00 / € 119,00 30843 SD50 Southern Pacific gray/red nose 1. # US-$ 140,00 / € 119,00 30844 SD50 Southern Pacific gray/red nose 2. # US-$ 140,00 / € 119,00 30845 SD50 Union Pacific yellow/gray 1. # US-$ 140,00 / € 119,00 30846 SD50 Union Pacific yellow/gray 2. # US-$ 140,00 / € 119,00 Proto 2000 NEW: EMD GP38, 1. Run / scheduled for end of September 2003: (Note:most likely these are GP38-2s) 30756 GP38 Chicago & North Western green/yellow 1. # US-$130,00 / € 125,00 30757 GP38 Chicago & North Western green/yellow 2. # US-$130,00 / € 125,00 30758 GP38 Rock Island red/yellow 1. # US-$130,00 / € 125,00 30759 GP38 Rock Island red/yellow 2. # US-$130,00 / € 125,00 30760 GP38 Illinois Central Gulf orange/white 1. # US-$130,00 / € 125,00 30761 GP38 Illinois Central Gulf orange/white 2. # US-$130,00 / € 125,00 30762 GP38 Milwaukee Road black/orange 1. # US-$130,00 / € 125,00 30763 GP38 Milwaukee Road black/orange 2. # US-$130,00 / € 125,00 30764 GP38 Norfolk Southern black/white 1. # US-$130,00 / € 125,00 30765 GP38 Norfolk Southern black/white 2. # US-$130,00 / € 125,00 30766 GP38 Seaboard Coast Line black/yellow 1. # US-$130,00 / € 125,00 30767 GP38 Seaboard Coast Line black/yellow 2. # US-$130,00 / € 125,00 30768 GP38 Southern Pacific gray/red nose 1. # US-$130,00 / € 125,00 30769 GP38 Southern Pacific gray/red nose 2. # US-$130,00 / € 125,00 30770 GP38 Southern Railway black/white rim 1. # US-$130,00 / € 125,00 30771 GP38 Southern Railway black/white rim 2. # US-$130,00 / € 125,00 Proto 2000 NEW: EMD GP38, 2. Run / scheduled for end of January 2004: (Note: more Dash-2s) 30776 GP38 Boston & Maine blue/white 1. # US-$130,00 / € 125,00 30777 GP38 Boston & Maine blue/white 2. # US-$130,00 / € 125,00 30778 GP38 Burlington Northern green/black 1. # US-$130,00 / € 125,00 30779 GP38 Burlington Northern green/black 2. # US-$130,00 / € 125,00 30780 GP38 Conrail blue/white 1. # US-$130,00 / € 125,00 30781 GP38 Conrail blue/white 2. # US-$130,00 / € 125,00 30782 GP38 Gulf Mobile & Ohio maroon/red 1. # US-$130,00 / € 125,00 30783 GP38 Gulf Mobile & Ohio maroon/red 2. # US-$130,00 / € 125,00 30784 GP38 Louisville & Nashville gray/yellow 1. # US-$130,00 / € 125,00 30785 GP38 Louisville & Nashville gray/yellow 2. # US-$130,00 / € 125,00 30786 GP38 Missouri Pacific blue 1. # US-$130,00 / € 125,00 30787 GP38 Missouri Pacific blue 2. # US-$130,00 / € 125,00 30788 GP38 SOO Line white/red 1. # US-$130,00 / € 125,00 30789 GP38 SOO Line white/red 2. # US-$130,00 / € 125,00 30790 GP38 Union Pacific yellow/gray 1. # US-$130,00 / € 125,00 30791 GP38 Union Pacific yellow/gray 2. # US-$130,00 / € 125,00 Proto 2000 NEW: EMD E8/E9, A+B Units, 2. / scheduled for November 2003: 30810 E8, A+B Amtrak silver, Phase I 1. # US-$190 / € 187,50 30811 E8, A+B Amtrak silver, Phase I 2. # US-$190 / € 187,50 30818 E8, A+B Milwaukee Road UP yellow/gray 1. # US-$190 / € 187,50 30819 E8, A+B Milwaukee Road UP yellow/gray 2. # US-$190 / € 187,50 30820 E8, A+B Southern Railway white/green 1. # US-$190 / € 187,50 30821 E8, A+B Southern Railway white/green 2. # US-$190 / € 187,50 30822 E8, A+B Southern Pacific gray/red nose 1. # US-$190 / € 187,50 30823 E8, A+B Southern Pacific gray/red nose 2. # US-$190 / € 187,50 30824 E8, A+B Union Pacific yellow/gray 1. # US-$190 / € 187,50 30825 E8, A+B Union Pacific yellow/gray 2. # US-$190 / € 187,50 both units are powered ! Proto 1000 NEW: ALCo RS-2 scheduled for end of August 2003: 30702 RS-2 Erie Railroad black/yellow 1. # US-$ 80,00 / € 76,00 30703 RS-2 Erie Railroad black/yellow 2. # US-$ 80,00 / € 76,00 30704 RS-2 Gulf Mobile & Ohio maroon/red 1. # US-$ 80,00 / € 76,00 30705 RS-2 Gulf Mobile & Ohio maroon/red 2. # US-$ 80,00 / € 76,00 30706 RS-2 Great Northern orange/green 1. # US-$ 80,00 / € 76,00 30707 RS-2 Great Northern orange/green 2. # US-$ 80,00 / € 76,00 30708 RS-2 Lehigh Valley cornell red 1. # US-$ 80,00 / € 76,00 30709 RS-2 Lehigh Valley cornell red 2. # US-$ 80,00 / € 76,00 30710 RS-2 New Haven green/gold 1. # US-$ 80,00 / € 76,00 30711 RS-2 New Haven green/gold 2. # US-$ 80,00 / € 76,00 30712 RS-2 New York Central black/white 1. # US-$ 80,00 / € 76,00 30713 RS-2 New York Central black/white 2. # US-$ 80,00 / € 76,00 30714 RS-2 Seaboard Air Line green/orange 1. # US-$ 80,00 / € 76,00 30715 RS-2 Seaboard Air Line green/orange 2. # US-$ 80,00 / € 76,00 30716 RS-2 Southern Railway green/white rim 1. # US-$ 80,00 / € 76,00 30717 RS-2 Southern Railway green/white rim 2. # US-$ 80,00 / € 76,00 Proto 2000 NEW: EMD GP60, 2. Run / scheduled for end of August 2003: 30554 GP60 Union Pacific yellow/gray #5835 US-$130 / € TBA / (Image) 30555 GP60 Union Pacific yellow/gray #5876 US-$130 / € TBA 30556 GP60 Union Pacific yellow/gray, Lightning #1983 US-$130 / € TBA 30557 GP60 Union Pacific yellow/gray, Lightning #2081 US-$130 / € TBA 30558 GP60 Southern Pacific gray, red nose #9717 US-$130 / € TBA / (Image) 30559 GP60 Southern Pacific gray, red nose #9735 US-$130 / € TBA 30560 GP60 Norfolk Southern black/white rim #7123 US-$130 / € TBA / (Image) 30561 GP60 Norfolk Southern black/white rim #7127 US-$130 / € TBA 30562 GP60 Electro Motive Division blue/white #5 US-$130 / € TBA / (Image) 30563 GP60 Electro Motive Division blue/white #7 US-$130 / € TBA 30564 GP60 BNSF (exAT&SF) yellow/blue #8727 US-$130 / € TBA / (Image) 30565 GP60 BNSF (exAT&SF) yellow/blue #8739 US-$130 / € TBA Proto 2000 NEW: EMD SD45, 1. Run Liefertermin ca. Ende August 2003 / scheduled for end of August 2003: 30719 SD45 Santa Fe yellow/gray #5547 US-$140 / € 119,00 / (Image) 30720 SD45 Santa Fe yellow/gray #5592 US-$140 / € 119,00 30721 SD45 Burlington Northern green/black #6489 US-$140 / € 119,00 / (Image) 30722 SD45 Burlington Northern green/black #6497 US-$140 / € 119,00 30723 SD45 Chicago & North Western yellow/green #6537 US-$140 / € 119,00 / (Image) 30724 SD45 Chicago & North Western yellow/green #6566 US-$140 / € 119,00 30725 SD45 CSX blue/gray #3625 US-$140 / € 119,00 / (Image) 30726 SD45 CSX blue/gray #3629 US-$140 / € 119,00 30727 SD45 Erie Lackawanna yellow/maroon/gray #3625 US-$140 / € 119,00 / (Image) 30728 SD45 Erie Lackawanna yellow/maroon/gray #3629 US-$140 / € 119,00 30729 SD45 Milwaukee Road orange/black #4000 US-$140 / € 119,00 / (Image) 30730 SD45 Milwaukee Road orange/black #4002 US-$140 / € 119,00 30731 SD45 Pennsylvania dark green #6174 US-$140 / € 119,00 / (Image) 30732 SD45 Pennsylvania dark green #6187 US-$140 / € 119,00 30733 SD45 Union Pacific yellow/gray #3609 US-$140 / € 119,00 30734 SD45 Union Pacific yellow/gray #3618 US-$140 / € 119,00 30735 SD45 undecroated USA only US-$140 / € 126,00 Proto 2000 NEW: EMD SD45, 2. Run / scheduled for end of December 2003: 30740 SD45 Santa Fe blue/yellow 1. # US-$140 / € 119,00 30741 SD45 Santa Fe blue/yellow 2. # US-$140 / € 119,00 30742 SD45 Chicago Burl. & Quincy chinese red 1. # US-$140 / € 119,00 30743 SD45 Chicago Burl. & Quincy chinese red 2. # US-$140 / € 119,00 30744 SD45 Clinchfield black/gold 1. # US-$140 / € 119,00 30745 SD45 Clinchfield black/gold 2. # US-$140 / € 119,00 30746 SD45 Denver & Rio Grande large lettering 1. # US-$140 / € 119,00 30747 SD45 Denver & Rio Grande large lettering 2. # US-$140 / € 119,00 30748 SD45 Great Northern orange/green 1. # US-$140 / € 119,00 30749 SD45 Great Northern orange/green 2. # US-$140 / € 119,00 30750 SD45 Seaboard black/silver 1. # US-$140 / € 119,00 30751 SD45 Seaboard black/silver 2. # US-$140 / € 119,00 30752 SD45 Southern Pacific gray/red nose 1. # US-$140 / € 119,00 30753 SD45 Southern Pacific gray/red nose 2. # US-$140 / € 119,00 30754 SD45 Wisconsin Central maroon/creme 1. # US-$140 / € 119,00 30755 SD45 Wisconsin Central maroon/creme 1. # US-$140 / € 119,00 Proto 2000 NEW: 40´ Mather Boxcar / scheduled for end of August 2003: 30866 40´ Boxcar Akron Canton & Youngstown brown/white #1140 US-$17,00 / € 17,00 30867 40´ Boxcar Akron Canton & Youngstown brown/white #1177 US-$17,00 / € 17,00 30868 40´ Boxcar Chicago & Eastern Illinois brown/white #414 US-$17,00 / € 17,00 30869 40´ Boxcar Chicago & Eastern Illinois brown/white #487 US-$17,00 / € 17,00 30870 40´ Boxcar Chicago & Illinois Midland yellow/black #8078 US-$17,00 / € 17,00 30871 40´ Boxcar Chicago & Illinois Midland yellow/black #8246 US-$17,00 / € 17,00 30872 40´ Boxcar Illinois Northern olive/white #2003 US-$17,00 / € 17,00 30873 40´ Boxcar Illinois Northern olive/white #2054 US-$17,00 / € 17,00 30874 40´ Boxcar Manufacturers Railway olive/white #7521 US-$17,00 / € 17,00 30875 40´ Boxcar Manufacturers Railway olive/white #7572 US-$17,00 / € 17,00 30876 40´ Boxcar Port Huron & Detroit brown/white #1010 US-$17,00 / € 17,00 30877 40´ Boxcar Port Huron & Detroit brown/white #1247 US-$17,00 / € 17,00 30878 40´ Boxcar undecorated US-$17,00 / € 17,00 Proto 2000 NEW: EMD GP18, 2. Run / scheduled for end of March 2002: 30680 GP18 Illinois Central Gulf orange/white #9405 US-$ 130,00 / € TBA 30681 GP18 Illinois Central Gulf orange/white #9410 US-$ 130,00 / € TBA 30682 GP18 Seaboard Coast Line black/yellow #1056 US-$ 130,00 / € TBA 30683 GP18 Seaboard Coast Line black/yellow #1057 US-$ 130,00 / € TBA / (Image) 30684 GP18 Chicago & North Western yellow/green #1774 US-$ 130,00 / € TBA 30685 GP18 Chicago & North Western yellow/green #1779 US-$ 130,00 / € TBA 30686 GP18 Lehigh Valley tuscan red #305 US-$ 130,00 / € TBA 30687 GP18 Lehigh Valley tuscan red #303 US-$ 130,00 / € TBA / (Image) 30688 GP18 Norfolk & Western black #943 US-$ 130,00 / € TBA 30689 GP18 Norfolk & Western black #956 US-$ 130,00 / € TBA / (Image) Proto 2000 NEW: EMD E8/E9, A+B Units / scheduled for early 2003: 30792 E8, A+B Atlantic Coast Line black/silver #545, 765B US-$190 / € 187,50 30793 E8, A+B Atlantic Coast Line black/silver #548, 766B US-$190 / € 187,50 30794 E8, A+B Santa Fe silver/red warbonnet #80L, 80A US-$190 / € 187,50 30795 E8, A+B Santa Fe silver/red warbonnet #83L, 83A US-$190 / € 187,50 / (Image) 30796 E8, A+B Baltimore & Ohio Capitol Scheme #53, 53X US-$190 / € 187,50 30797 E8, A+B Baltimore & Ohio Capitol Scheme #56, 56X US-$190 / € 187,50 / (Image) 30798 E8, A+B Illinois Central brown/orange #4036, 4106 US-$190 / € 187,50 30799 E8, A+B Illinois Central brown/orange #4038, 4109 US-$190 / € 187,50 / (Image) 30800 E8, A+B Richm. Fredicksb. & Potomac creme/blue/silver #1001, 1051 US-$190 / € 187,50 30801 E8, A+B Richm. Fredicksb. & Potomac creme/blue/silver #1005, 1055 US-$190 / € 187,50 / (Image) 30802 E8, A+B Rock Island UP yellow/gray #657, 615 US-$190 / € 187,50 30803 E8, A+B Rock Island UP yellow/gray #661, 618 US-$190 / € 187,50 / (Image) 30804 E8, A Frisco (SLSF) red/gold #2019 US-$95 / € 93,75 30805 E8, A Frisco (SLSF) red/gold #2022 US-$95 / € 93,75 (Personal note: YESSSSSSSS!!!!!) 30806 E8, A+B undecorated US-$190 / € 187,50 both units are powered ! Proto Heritage NEW: 0-6-0 Steam Switcher, 2. / ... delayed to August 2003: 30230 0-6-0 Baltimore & Ohio black #371 US-$ 245,00 / € 238,50 30231 0-6-0 Baltimore & Ohio black #386 US-$ 245,00 / € 238,50 30232 0-6-0 Chicago Burlington & Quincy black #505 US-$ 245,00 / € 238,50 30233 0-6-0 Chicago Burlington & Quincy black #509 US-$ 245,00 / € 238,50 30234 0-6-0 New York Central black #231 US-$ 245,00 / € 238,50 30235 0-6-0 New York Central black #234 US-$ 245,00 / € 238,50 30236 0-6-0 Seaboard Air Line black #1090 US-$ 245,00 / € 238,50 30237 0-6-0 Seaboard Air Line black #1091 US-$ 245,00 / € 238,50 30238 0-6-0 Frisco (SLSF) black #3801 US-$ 245,00 / € 238,50 30239 0-6-0 Frisco (SLSF) black #3803 US-$ 245,00 / € 238,50 (another presonal note: the gods love the coonskin!) 30240 0-6-0 Union Pacific black #4605 US-$ 245,00 / € 238,50 30241 0-6-0 Union Pacific black #4609 US-$ 245,00 / € 238,50 Proto Heritage NEW: 4-8-2 Berkshire, 1. Run / scheduled for August 2003: 30011 2-8-4 Berkshire Chesapeake & Ohio #2724 US-$ 365,00 / € 385,00 / (Image) 30012 2-8-4 Berkshire Chesapeake & Ohio #2736 US-$ 365,00 / € 385,00 30014 2-8-4 Berkshire Pere Marquette #1202 US-$ 365,00 / € 385,00 30015 2-8-4 Berkshire Pere Marquette #1204 US-$ 365,00 / € 385,00 30016 2-8-4 Berkshire Nickel Plate Road #717 US-$ 365,00 / € 385,00 / (Image) 30017 2-8-4 Berkshire Nickel Plate Road #738 US-$ 365,00 / € 385,00 30019 2-8-4 Berkshire undecorated (USA only) US-$ 365,00 / € auf Anfrage Proto Heritage NEW: 4-8-2 Berkshire, 2. Run / scheduled for November 2003: 30026 2-8-4 Berkshire Chesapeake & Ohio 1. # US-$ TBA / € TBA 30027 2-8-4 Berkshire Chesapeake & Ohio 2. # US-$ TBA / € TBA / (Image) 30028 2-8-4 Berkshire Virginain Ry 1. # US-$ TBA / € TBA 30029 2-8-4 Berkshire Virginain Ry 2. # US-$ TBA / € TBA 30030 2-8-4 Berkshire Nickel Plate Road 1. # US-$ TBA / € TBA 30031 2-8-4 Berkshire Nickel Plate Road 2. # US-$ TBA / € TBA / (Image) Second price listing on each item is for Euros- I tried to get rid of all the German I could, but I may not have been successful. I left the price in Euros in, as it's too much work to delete. To make a long story short, start saving those dollars, pounds, euros, yen, etc- it's gonna be a great year for motive power!! [ 16. January 2003, 22:47: Message edited by: friscobob ]
And to clarify, Life-Like is actually doing GP38-2 models and not a GP38 as listed in that announcement. Chris Toth
30830 SD50 Chessie System orange/yellow/blue 1. # US-$ 140,00 / € 119,00 30831 SD50 Chessie System orange/yellow/blue 2. # US-$ 140,00 / € 119,00 30832 SD50 Conrail blue/white 1. # US-$ 140,00 / € 119,00 30833 SD50 Conrail blue/white 2. # US-$ 140,00 / € 119,00 30834 SD50 Conrail blue/white 3. # US-$ 140,00 / € 119,00 WOOHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Exactly- that's why I put the disclaimer in the GP38 announcement It's just kinda hard to see. I fixed that by boldfacing the note- thanks for pointing that out After looking at the 38-2s, I am somewhat dismayed- Rock Island DID own GP38-2s, but they were all in bankruptcy blue, not red & yellow. No telling what the "Rockheads" will do.... But overall, it's a pretty good haul. I'd start looking for the best price I can- those suggested retail prices are in the Kato range [ 16. January 2003, 22:49: Message edited by: friscobob ]
Looks great! I see a pair of GN SD45s in my future. I think I'll be investing heavially in undecs though so I can get some Big Sky Blue SD45s and SP&S RS2s
Is it too much to ask the companies to include a non-dynamic brake hatch for us CNW modelers? I mean what, the hatches cost about a buck each.
CNW Lover It may only cost $1.00 to buy one but it would cost $1,000s more to make one. Does any other manufacturer make an insert?
Welcome CNW_4404_Lover and cajon to Trainboard. It's great to have you both on board! Yes, a few years back, someone did produce a model (can't remember the type, but think it might have been a GP7, or even if it was N or HO), that was non-dynamic equipped. Then it had in the box a moulding of the DB blisters and roof fan that snapped in place. I never bought one, and have never seen the idea since. But at the time I thought it was a pretty smart move. Maybe another one of our members will remember more about it. Seems like it was decorated as an NKP, if I remember correctly. Bill
Didn't Athearn do the snap-out DB's on some EMD's in HO? and I'm sure Life Like has done the GP7 and (maybe) GP30 with the same. In N, Life-Like does the GP18 and GP20 with this same feature. Pity no-one else has.
I think most of the manufacturers have done this with some things, but the issue here is: 1: It's only applicable to CNW's original loco's 2: Because of the "flares" it would be somewhat more difficult I reckon to do this to than a standard unit, as the front of the radiator section is sort-of streamlined back to the carbody. (On all the models I've seen with swappable hatches, they use the panel lines that cross the roof and run down the sides a short way to hide the joint, it looks like on the SD45 there is not such an easy join at the rear, making that much more difficult.) Some of these CNW SD45's were rebuilt after use by CNW, but all the ones I have come across in my research have had dynamics installed after leaving CNW. I would have thought a high nose version would be much higher on the agenda, as these were used by NW, Southern, NS, Guilford and maybe others...but they haven't looked at that as far as I can tell... Ref swappable hatches, Kato (GP35), Athearn (GP38-2/40-2/50/60/SD40-2/SD40T-2), Walthers (F40) and Atlas (current GP38/40) plus very likely many more (those mentioned are models I have "played with" myself) have used pop-out dynamic hatches, the P2K Geeps (GP7/9/30) I have -don't- have this, but the two hoods, cab, walkway etc are all separate pieces (more bits than most of the previously mentioned models) so doing the variants (non-dynamic, steam generator, torpedo tube, phase variants etc) have all been done by just changing one or two of those components, sort of a "mix-n-match geep" concept! HTH
That was taken from the HO page, so it didn't contain any N, try this link for the Lifelike N: http://home.t-online.de/home/all-american-trains/newlln.htm
In looking they have also updated their site, the Rock GP38-2's are thankfully now listed as blue and white, and the CBQ SD45's in Cascade Green with a white "hockey stick" instead of Chinese red. Phew!!!
True, it would cost 1000s of dollars to buy tooling for the dynamic brake grille, but is there's a market......?
