Has IE-11 Issue Been Resolved?

Hytec Jul 22, 2015

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  1. ScaleCraft

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    Good. Hope you didn't have Nvidia video drivers
     
  2. YoHo

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    Well,it was work across dozens of computers. It's not my fault nVidia isn't on the ball. They pulled the same thing with Vista. Late with drivers. Still who has nVidia drivers except PC gamers who know from drivers? Most PCs now days are running Intel Graphics.
     
  3. ScaleCraft

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    I have Nvidia. But it runs on a system MicroSlime can't mess with.
    Remember this, a year from now:
    MicroSoft is not doing upgrades for "free" out of the goodness of the Gates Foundation.
    Logging in to reach all the good stuff through MS will let them see what you do, where you go...and sell that data to third parties to target you with ads...probably everywhere you go, across platforms.

    The jury is still out on what exactly is up their corporate sleeve.

    But we shall all see.

    Dave
     
  4. YoHo

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    I've been logging in to Microsoft since before Windows 8 came out. Between Xbox and MSDN. I've yet to regret it. I'm really trying to be civil here, but I work in IT and you are just living on a different planet from me
     
  5. ScaleCraft

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    I got zapped by them once. Same planet. If you didn't, good for you.
    Just wait and we'll all see.
    The other dumptruck full of shoes hasn't dropped yet.
     
  6. ScaleCraft

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    Oh..and all those links I keep putting up....I did not write them or make them up.
    The tech community is asking questions...and getting a whole lot of different answers.
    "free" does not mean free.
     
  7. YoHo

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    I don't understand the point you're trying to make here. Why do the support dates matter at all? They don't support windows 2000 anymore either. Nor DOS.
     
  8. BoxcabE50

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    When W10 was announced, and as they were hyping it, the original promise was no time limit on support. Now they've backtracked on that promise. W10 was supposedly their last OS. With a now defined end date, then what comes?
     
  9. ScaleCraft

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    Trying to explain is pointless, Ken. When the blinders are so tightly strapped on, there is just no point in trying.

    One of the things I've been saying....of all the folks at MS who make public comments or statements, none can seem to get in sync with the others.
    Is it really the last OS? Or the last Windows?
    Is it "free" or free?
    If one takes the rose coloured glasses off, and look again, it's all wiggle words.
    So, MS issues a bad update, and as far as I am concerned, OS providers have zero right to push any update on any product not theirs, but now it's nobody uses Nvidia so what's the big deal?
    The big deal is, it's business as usual at MS.
    Remember Update Tuesday followed by Crash Wednesday?
     
  10. YoHo

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    None of that was actually promised. A lot of pundits promised that.
    What comes is Windows 11.

    I'll grant you that Microsoft isn't known for their marketing or ability to craft a press statement. THe "free" situation being a prime example, but they never once promised in an official capacity, free forever OS. They said they were going OS as a service.
     
  11. YoHo

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    As for driver updates in Windows Updates are the vendor's drivers, nVidia's drivers. If they don't work, that is nVidia's fault. Would you car to take a guess at the catastrophic bug rate on patches sent out in patch Tuesday since introduced in WindowsMe? It's remarkably low. Whereas those patches have lead to a far more secure OS. I would never even consider putting an XP computer on the internet in the year 2015 without strong corporate firewalls. Windows 10 is in comparison the most secure OS out right now.
     
  12. ScaleCraft

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    What they SAID was "this is the last Windows", which caused the conversation about the "next" OS being something no longer called Windows.
    Not sure how you missed that.
    Remember what I said earlier about nobody knows what anybody else is thinking or saying in Redmond?
    Bingo!
    Now you need that special decoder ring from your Frosted Flakes.
    As far as XP, I'll run it (as apparently a LOT of others are) as long as I can, or until they bury Billy, whichever is first, just to be ornery.
    That's why I have two systems here.
    MS created the security issues, failed to follow through and fix them HOW long ago? So, I just keep on.
    There is no way I will ever purchase anything from them clowns again, as in ever.
    Should everything here go to shXt, I'll drag out ANOTHER box pre-loaded with Ubuntu and start over again.
    I had my last attempt with 8, then 8.1, and it looks and feels like XP but it took me months to do it (right down to Outlook Express).
    If 8 was the best the clowns could come up with, and 10 is improved, come on, there is no way I'd go through that carp again.
    Logging in through MS? Really?
    Mandated updates when we learned what, 20 or so years ago to NEVER do automatic updates...let the suckers who do report it killed their computers, search the KB's on the algore, and load what works, decline what doesn't, and wait for the next batch of BS from Redmond.
    If you're in IT and you missed out on all of that..great.
    I keep driving my non-supported, obsolete Flathead Fords, and By Gawd I will continue fighting the fear-mongering out of Redmond over XP until I can't do it anymore.
    Geez.
     
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    Posted on Malware Tips:
    Unstoppable auto-updates? More like auto-borkage.


    Microsoft's automatic updates feature in Windows 10 has collided with Nvidia's driver system, sending the new operating system off the rails as it launches.

    Early adopters are experiencing glitches (particularly in multi-monitor setups), and in some cases crashes, all triggered when Windows 10 automatically updates its graphics card drivers.

    The misfiring upgrade has sparked howls of protests from netizens on the Nvidia forums and elsewhere.

    The issue stems from a push-me-pull-you conflict between Windows Update and Nvidia’s own driver and software management tool, Nvidia GeForce Experience. Forbes reports that the latest driver version, 353.54, is only available through Windows Update, it isn't very stable, and yet Windows 10 installs it anyway automatically.

    Nvidia GeForce Experience tries to downgrade the software to an earlier stable version (353.30), but is blocked by Windows 10, leaving users with broken systems.

    Previous versions of Windows Update treated driver updates as optional but this has changed with Windows 10 – and this is why the dodgy driver is forced on users with frustrating consequences.
     
  14. BoxcabE50

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    I can't find anything of a Windows 11, except speculation. You must have some insider information. The deal was W10 would be the last and instead of a new OS, it would be ongoing major upgrades to W10.
     
  15. YoHo

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    Last version of Windows was never committed to. It may not literally be called Windows 11. It may lose all numbering and just be called Windows. It could be called darles chickens or stick wit stapers. But odds are it will be an iteration on the NT Kernel again just as every OS since Windows 2000 has been. Not 100% obviously, they could write a new OS from the ground up as they did with NT, but I'll believe it when I see it.
    14 million people installed Windows 10 for free in the last 24 hours. I believe that exceeds the remaining XP install base. Certainly it exceeds the consumer XP install base (not including embedded devices like medical machinery, ATMs, etc...)
     
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    And the OS as a service came out later. They do not communicate with each other. Remember that.
    In January it was free for a year:
    http://www.technobuffalo.com/2015/01/21/windows-10-is-a-free-upgrade-for-just-one-year/
    and if you really want to be confused:
    http://www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-version-of-windows
    And some places are saying after one year you may just get that charge from MS (remember the mandatory MS account and log-in) to get updates and upgrades (remember MANDATORY updates and upgrades...part of the EULA).
    And I have no idea (and MS probably doesn't either) where you come up with 11:
    "Microsoft Windows 10, which will be launched for PCs this summer, will be the Redmond-based tech firm's last Windows OS version, said Jerry Nixon, a Microsoft employee and developer evangelist, at the company's ongoing Ignite conference in Chicago.
    Reiterating the company's "Windows as a service" philosophy, Nixon said the firm is planning no new OS version launches in the future. "Right now we're releasing Windows 10, and because Windows 10 is the last version of Windows, we're all still working on Windows 10," he added."
    You really need to read up on this stuff before you jump in with both feet and can't get out.
     
  17. ScaleCraft

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    Good wiggle attempt. But not good enough. Little boxes made of ticky-tacky, little boxes all the same.
    Everybody has a stupidphone 3.0, drives a pry-us, and has 10.
    Not.
    Me.
    Let me paraphrase a famous quote:
    "....when they pry it out of my cold, dead hands"
    Last years I ran into someone using 3.1...still.
    Remember when MS tried to claim all those units of 8 out there? Then we found out they were "licenses".
    You go right ahead and trust those double-talking ignoramuses.
    And buy into this "free" bs when nobody (including, it seems, MS) knows exactly where it's headed.
    It's MY computer. It will do what I want it to do. It will get updates when I decide they are safe....or not at all.
     
  18. YoHo

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    Well, you're running XP, so it won't be free for you. And, those 14 million are installs, not licenses unused. Upgrades done via the store. Also, I was at ignite. Stood there and heard them talk about it. It may be the last version of windows in the same way OSX is the last version of Mac OS. Aka OS10, 10.1,10.2 etc etc. Or it may not. We've got 5 years before it matters.
     
  19. ScaleCraft

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    Remember.....they don't talk to each other, what they do say is often phrased with "wiggle words" they can squirm out of later.

    Glad to know you were at the Ignite Conference, and that you now recall they said that...and not Windows 11.
    Wait until you get a lot older...those moments may come further apart.
     
  20. r_i_straw

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