Paint scheme's for Santa Fe????

Discussion in 'N Scale' started by guppyman, Mar 30, 2001.

  1. guppyman

    guppyman TrainBoard Member

    I see on a regular basis Santa Fe & UP locos. I have notice that the Santa Fe paint scheme is not what I see for sale in the catalogs. What I see is a very dark grey with a little red.

    When I start to buy locos, I will probally get a mix of Santa Fe & UP- I'm just wondering if anyone has pics of the different paint schemes that Santa Fe has used. Also, if UP used anything other than the standard yellow & grey, I'd like to see that too.
     
  2. Maxwell Plant

    Maxwell Plant TrainBoard Member

    As far as the Santa Fe paint, what you are seeing is called a Warbonnet, applied to all Santa Fe wide cabs. The Paint is Platinum Mist (Silver), Red (if it's not a dark Red, it's faded) with a Black and Yellow Pinstipe that divieds the Red from the Platinum Mist. The other more recent Santa Fe paint is called a Yellowbonnet, you'll find this on standard cabs. It is a Blue Body with a Yellow "Bonnet". No pinstripe divides the colors on this one. I like both schemes but because I've back-dated to the Mid70-Early80's, my loco's will all be sporting the Yellowbonnet Paint. [​IMG] try going to atsfrr.com and you'll see some pictures there.
     
  3. guppyman

    guppyman TrainBoard Member

    I think I half-way confused myself. I also see some old Southern Pacific locos and I think I mixed up the paint jobs. :rolleyes:

    Pics of any of the 3 are welcome. Esp. if they are weathered model pics.

    Thanks for the info Max
     
  4. JCater

    JCater TrainBoard Member

    Guppyman,
    As Brent points out, the best source for this info is at http://www.atsfrr.com
    Lots of info on paint schemes there. Also Brent's description of the warbonnet and yellowbonnet's are correct. Good luck and Happy Modeling!!
    John
     
  5. Dwightman

    Dwightman TrainBoard Member

    Looks like Brent and John got you headed in the right direction for Santa Fe stuff (though I would recommend http://www.qstation.org/ as well). For anything Southern Pacific, goto http://espee.railfan.net/. Richard Percy has done an excellent job with this site. I don't know about UP sites, though. Just out of curiosity, where do you usually see Santa Fe locos?

    Dwight

    [ 30 March 2001: Message edited by: Dwightman ]
     
  6. Maxwell Plant

    Maxwell Plant TrainBoard Member

    I forgot about Q-Station! That's an excellent SITE! [​IMG]

    One other scheme I forgot about, (I wonder why...) The Ill-Fated SF-SP Merger Paint. They called them Kodacromes or "Shouldn't Paint So Fast's "! I found them UGLY AS SIN! Same "Bonnet" as the Yellowbonnet's, Red long hood with a Black-almost BN-style-roof. The lettering on the hoods were either SF or SP in yellow. I just could never get into this scheme... :rolleyes:

    [ 31 March 2001: Message edited by: Maxwell Plant ]
     
  7. JCater

    JCater TrainBoard Member

    Brent...I agree!! Although I would have to say I like them better than the new BNSF "pumpkins." Happy Modeling!!
    John
     
  8. guppyman

    guppyman TrainBoard Member

    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dwightman:
    Just out of curiosity, where do you usually see Santa Fe locos?

    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I see them on the line that runs along Highway 3 towards Galveston. Mostly UP stuff, but the occasional Southern Pacific or Santa Fe Loco on there.
     
  9. Dwightman

    Dwightman TrainBoard Member

    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by guppyman:
    I see them on the line that runs along Highway 3 towards Galveston. Mostly UP stuff, but the occasional Southern Pacific or Santa Fe Loco on there.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Ok, the red/silver warbonnets would stay mainly on BNSF trains either on their own tracks or on trackage rights. That is one of the few lines in the Houston area that BNSF doesn't have trackage rights. I don't know how familiar you are with the railroads around Houston, so here is a railfan guide for the area. If you have an image editor (I suggest IrfvanView if you don't have one), download the number map and reduce it in size. Otherwise, it's so big that it's pretty much useless.

    Dwight
     
  10. Maxwell Plant

    Maxwell Plant TrainBoard Member

    As you know, I've back dated my N-Scale Modeling to 1975-1980, part of the reason I'm visit this Forum more often now. At the Urbana, IL. Train Show this past weekend, I was wearing my BNSF Pumpkin Tee-Shirt. A fellow N-Traker who knows I was a BNSF Modeler told me I couldn't wear the BNSF Colors anymore! [​IMG] I short, I was branded a Turn-Coat! (It was all in Fun...) I told him I'm still a BNSF Fan, but Modeling the ATSF, the BEST Part of BNSF! ;) Besides, I have PLENTY of Santa Fe Tee's I can wear, just had the BNSF shirt on this time.
     
  11. wm-webb

    wm-webb TrainBoard Supporter

    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Maxwell Plant:
    I couldn't wear the BNSF Colors anymore! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
    Brent, you just have to remind them what BNSF really stands for. "Big New Santa Fe"
    ;)
    Bill Webb

    [ 02 April 2001: Message edited by: william ]
     
  12. Maxwell Plant

    Maxwell Plant TrainBoard Member

    :confused: Bill, do you know the Gang from Heritage N-Trak? They're from your town, it was one of their members that pointed (or was that showed?) a finger at me and said I couldn't wear it anymore. But you're right, it is the Big New Santa Fe! :D
     

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