Need help with an HO layout sarting from scratch

gorilla33 Oct 9, 2009

  1. Denali_Subdivision

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    Okay sounds good JB. If you could post the link to which brewery he has that would further help me as i can include it in the plan. ill see what i can work on over the weekend. im on my way out the door right now, and wont be back till later this evening, so ill see if i can start the basics tonight.
     
  2. gorilla33

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    Man that's awesome, I really appreciate it. I'm looking up the brewery right now.

    Thanks again!
     
  3. Denali_Subdivision

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    Hey JB,

    got a chance to sit down briefly for a couple mins tonight after getting home from my girlfriends house lol

    I got the basic layout started. If you can, post that link to the Brewery so i can add it in. I also need to add in a small town.

    The plan is using Atlas Code 83 track. I was limited to 20" radius on the outside and 18" radius on the inside. It can be made larger, but it will require some widening of the benchwork on the 44" and 42" sides. I would need to extend them both to 48" to get a 22" radius on the outer and a 20" radius on the inside, which would allow for some larger equipment to be run on the outer loop. Right now, your going to be pretty much limited to 4 axle locomotives and 50' (maybe some 60') or shorter rolling stock. This also has 2" or more track spacing between parallel tracks and tracks in the curves.

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    Im thinking you could do some tunnels and mountains on both the L ends, and then some towns and light industrial in the open spaces along the rest. Like i said, just got a chance to briefly work on it tonight, ill do some more tomorrow night, time for bed lol

    If you want me to open up the curves to 22" and 20", let me know and i can do that.

    **edit** looking back at it, there might be some reach issues. let me know what you think, you said your nephew is tall, and if you make the benchwork lower to the ground, it shouldnt be a problem.... I would suggest making the benchwork around 40-45"
     
  4. Ignacio O'Callaghan

    Ignacio O'Callaghan New Member

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    Please have a look to 60 plans for small locations by CJ Freezer , a Peco Track Plan book, it's 100% british prototype but you can adapt any track plan to look more USA type.

    Hope this might help.

    Kind regards.

    Ignacio
     
  5. gorilla33

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    Hi Josh,

    I know it probably seems simple to you, but what you done so far has been an incredible help. As far as the brewery goes, he doesn't have it yet, he seen it in a magazine. My sister is trying to locate it now. I will let you know. As a backup, I'm looking at the Woddland Scenics Barrel Factory, and the Lowenbrau brewery from Model Power I think. I would be open to your suggestions. The brewery I remember from his magazine had a bunch of grain silos attached to it. I think it was a Coors Brewery. Ever seen a kit for something like that? Thanks a million!!!
     
  6. gorilla33

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    One other novice question, Are the mountains built in two sections to allow for recovery of train derailments inside the tunnels?
     
  7. Denali_Subdivision

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    No worries, im glad i could be of help so far lol

    I still need to know if you want the radius changed or leave it as is? Right now its 20" on the outside track and 18" on the inside track, which will limit you to 4-axle locomotives. if that is okay, then i wont need to change anything. But if you want to be able to run 6-axle locomotives, i will need to change the outside radius to 22" and the inside to 20". You will probably only be able to run the 6-axle locomotives on the outside 22" radius still, not sure if a 6-axle will make it on a 20" radius.

    Changing the radius will also mean wider benchwork and a little more of a reach

    And the mountains can be built to have access hatches, but that will be up to you when you are constructing them lol. I cant draw in mountains and such on the plan.
     
  8. gorilla33

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    Hi Josh, Let's go with the 22" outside and 20" inside. Thanks again!!
     
  9. Denali_Subdivision

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    No problem, ill get that going right now :D
     
  10. Denali_Subdivision

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    okay, so here is the plan with 22" radius on the outside, and 20" radius on the inside. New benchwork dimensions have also been put in.

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  11. gorilla33

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    Awesome bro! Now does your software tell you approximately how much and what kind of track I'll need? Thanks again for all your help!!
     
  12. Dwyane

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    JB / Josh,

    One think not mention here is access to the basement.

    Can you get a 9'L x 4'W x ??H object once build into the basement, better check the path thru house into basement.

    Another modeler I follow his build on-line build a 5'x9'x1.5' layout and after completion and selling it to another person he noted that if the layout was a 1" or 2" bigger in any direction he would not have gotten it out of his basement.

    Just some food for thought.
     
  13. Denali_Subdivision

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    Hi Dwayne, I believe JB had said he was going to build this in module form, so he would be building sections at a time that he could break down and move to his nephews house :D
     
  14. Denali_Subdivision

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    Sure does :D

    So Far its:

    Roughly 26 Pieces of Atlas Code 83 36" Flextrack
    1 Atlas Code 83 Righthand #4 Turnout
     
  15. Shortround

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    What a wonderful thing to do for the young man. I hope it works out well for all involved.

    Josh,
    Thinks to you as well. I'm just starting designing and you guys gave me some food for thought.
     
  16. gorilla33

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    Hi Josh,
    Just found out that the brewery he has been talking about is the one he's seen in the Beer Line series in Model Railroader. I'm in the process of figuring out what buildings I am going to use from that layout, I know I have to do the schlitz grain elevators, because I specifically remember that photo that he kept showing me, but I will come up with a list and get back to you. Agian thanks for all your time and effort on this one. Has anyone here built the beer line?
     
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  17. gorilla33

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    The more I read, the more i think I could build my own modules with the 2" foam board method, and still build it in sections. Question is, do you still lay plaster over it once you've shaped it? Does anyone have any links to threads on here showing foam board DIY? I've been looking but can't find anything. Thanks again!!
     
  18. gorilla33

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    Bump :) Any ideas anyone? Josh sent you a PM about your ADM Grain elevators, and silos you have for sale. Thanks again!
     
  19. gorilla33

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    Ok, well the construction on my nephew's basement has begun, and he's ready for me to get this layout done. The Woodland scenics modules look great, but cost inhibitive. I'm thinking about going with the 2 inch foam board. Does anyone know what I could search on here to find a layout build DIY using foam board? I've been looking for two hours straight now, and feel I'm just not looking in the right places. Does anyone know of a good DVD showing layout construction using foam board?
    Thanks for all your help guys.
     
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