2012...any SDP45 yet?

b-16707 Jan 12, 2012

  1. b-16707

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    anyone know of rumors or new kits or anything regarding a SDP45 yet? the threads ive seen here are older ones. im hoping that a year or two will have brought new things!
     
  2. VIARailfan

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    With only 52 built I can't see anyone major manufacture making these. Maybe FVM but I know it would sell big.
     
  3. jnevis

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    NSR has an article on building a stand-in from a Del Prado FP45 and Atlas SD50/60.
     
  4. Jerry M. LaBoda

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    "NSR has an article on building a stand-in from a Del Prado FP45 and Atlas SD50/60."

    Now that would be an unusual approach... are you sure it was for an SDP45? Sounds more like for an SDP40F... a completely different creature.
     
  5. Ike the BN Freak

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    NSR had an article to build an SDP40F...as Jerry said, different animal. Someone on the Atlas forums was doing one using a Kato C44-9W frame and modified SD45 shell
     
  6. b-16707

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    i guess ill just have to continue dreaming on. im not good enough to kitbash anthing in nscale. its too fine and detail orientated.
     
  7. Ryan Wilkerson

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  8. Westfalen

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    There were only 14 FP45's built I can't see anyone making them. Oh wait.:tb-wink:
     
  9. jnevis

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    It was late and the mag was in the car, yes it was the 40.
     
  10. Westfalen

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    Many years ago when it seemed manufacturers were more likely to produce the odder prototypes Athearn did an SDP40 in HO.

    There are still a lot of diesels to be done in N scale.
     
  11. b-16707

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    let the petition begin! wansnt there another manufacturer who did custom hoods too? i remember some sort of B unit
     
  12. Jerry M. LaBoda

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    "There were only 14 FP45's built I can't see anyone making them. Oh wait."

    The SDP45 wasn't painted "Santa Fe." Painted in Espee, GN BSB, BN, EL, CR... MKCX, WC... nah... no interest there...
     
  13. rrjim1

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    If someone was to do a EL version put me down for at least 4!
     
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  15. Ryan Wilkerson

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    From the other thread: http://www.trainboard.com/grapevine/showthread.php?61969-SDP45-kitbash ...it looks like the Intermountain SD45T-2 mechanism would be very close. IM has done the very road-specific CN SD40W-2 so why not an SDP45? As Jerry listed and Transitionalman added, there are SP, GN, BN, EL, CR, MKCX, WC and UP. Seems like a perfect fit for IM since they try to do as many veriations of a model as possible. How about we get the research further along and deliver it to them?
     
  16. Ryan Wilkerson

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    I'm not sure how accurate this Wiki page is but it's a good start.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMD_SDP45
    These units are now over 45 years since first release so it should be appealing for modellers in multiple eras.

    Here are some sources with very good photos:
    http://www.locophotos.com/Search.php?SearchModel=EMD+SDP45&Search=Search

    http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/modelthumbs.aspx?NumCols=4&View=1&mid=180&Page=14
    Some example photos:
    BN 9859
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    CR 6680
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    EL 3638 (red, white, blue)
    [​IMG]
    EL 3641
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    Here's an interesting page with paint schemes and other details.
    http://myweb.msoe.edu/~westr/SDP40-45.htm

    A post on trainorders.com by auther BN_FAN: (http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?3,1603168)
    "
    GN big sky blue
    BN patched GN big sky blue
    BN green/black
    NRL patched BN green/black (#6592)
    EL gray/maroon/yellow
    EL bicentennial (#3638)
    CR patched EL gray/maroon/yellow
    CR patched EL bicentennial (#6669)
    CR
    NW patched CR
    SP
    SP Kodachrome
    SP speed lettering (SD40M-2 rebuilt ex-EL units)
    UP patched ex-SP speed lettering (?)
    UP
    UP lightning stripe
    HLCX blue/red
    VMV patched ex-Conrail
    MKCX patched ex-Conrail
    MKCX blue with white stripe
    WC patched ex MKCX blue with white stripe
    WC maroon/yellow (repaint of above unit)
    AARX patched ex WC
    "
     
  17. Ryan Wilkerson

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    Some more photos:
    GN 332
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    MKCX 9515 (haven't found a good photo yet)

    SP Kodachrome 3207 (original SPs)
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    SP 3209 (original SPs)
    [​IMG]
    SP 8692 (ex-EL rebuild to SD40M-2 by MK)
    [​IMG]
     
  18. Ryan Wilkerson

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    UP 2771
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    WC 6634
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    HLCX 6515
    [​IMG]

    And found one of the MKCX
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    Most reference photos from http://www.rrpicturearchives.net with photographer noted in the caption of each.
     
  19. b-16707

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    what beastly machines.

    what i want to know is how many different operators (in different schemes) does there need to be for a model manufacturer to deem it profitable to produce? how do we even put in a petition?
     
  20. Ryan Wilkerson

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    I don't think it is directly tied to the number of different scheme (but it doesn't hurt). Take the GP60M and GP60B to be produced by FVM...just need to have a popular enough railroad to be profitable on the total number of units sold. Since the SDP45 has some of the big/popular roads (SP, UP, Conrail, BN, GN), I actually think it's a possibility. If a case can be made to a manufacturer to do a new body for an existing chassis, I think it has a decent shot. Since IM seems to have that, I really think they are the best bet since they like to complete a series (FT, F3, F7, FP7, F9 for example). They already have the SD40T-2, SD45T-2, SD45-2, SD40W-2...SDP45 sounds like a logical future model to me! Where is the next trainshow where IM will have a booth? It's always good to make a case in person.
     

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