USB cable or blue tooth are connections from tablet or smart phone to the E controller, audio connection is for sound using speaker in the E-controller case, you choose whether e- controller is operating in DC mode or DCC, the tablet or smart phone is just a hand held device you use to communicate with the e-controller via the app from Rokuhan.
There is just one version to my knowledge of the app and the E-Controller with a manual in both languages most things are pictorial
If so then something must be getting lost in the translation for their information states this “*Operate your car by wireless connection via third-party Bluetooth audio receivers (sold separately)” here: http://www.rokuhan.com/english/news...-introduction-for-the-e-train-controller.html. Bob
I think Bob is right...it is an audio signal incoming.....either via audio cable or via Bluetooth converted to audio via an adapter. This moves it from interesting to "meh" on my give-a-darn meter. If I didn't already have a Digitrax setup then maybe but just doesn't seem to offer much and I'm concerned how that Bluetooth "hack" is gonna perform. Hopefully it proves me wrong.
All: Am I missing something? Isn't it possible to use an "audio" cable to pass control signals? So, even though it's an "audio" cable, it is how the tablet gives the user inputs to the controller. The bluetooth "audio" comment in the above message (I think) refers to other bluetooth train address controllers in the market that can be directly controlled by the tablet (one example I found via google is here: http://bluerailtrains.com/2015/12/17/bluerail-trains-first-plugin-board/) Here's my assumptions of the Rokuhan e-Train controller: * You can use the audio cable to connect your tablet to the main controller. This will allow all control functions to pass from the tablet to the controller. * As an alternative to the audio cable, you can use bluetooth from your tablet to communicate all controls to the main controller. This method ALSO allows all control functions to pass from the tablet to the controller. * The APP and controller allow the use of 3rd party bluetooth-capable address cards that you mount into your locomotives (these are sold separately - most likely something in N or HO, as I am not familiar with this type of product in z (see link above)). Is there a translation I have missed or an application of the cables/bluetooth that other people are considering when they are making their assumptions? Just trying to figure this out and not step on anyone's toes.
Yes, it is absolutely possible to control the device via audio cable. But, I think your second and third assumptions are incorrect. Regarding assumption two: ("As an alternative to the audio cable, ...") My understanding is, there is ONE* way for the tablet to communicate with the controller....a signal through an audio cable. However, as a *workaround to make it a wireless connection, you can use a bluetooth-to-audio converter. (commonly used to allow a phone's bluetooth connection to play music on a non-bluetooth enabled car stereo using that stereo's AUX IN mini-jack, for example) That converter then puts the signal into the format the Rokuhan controller likes....a signal through an audio cable. Regarding assumption three: ("The APP and controller allow...") My understanding is there is NO BLUETOOTH CIRCUITRY in the controller, period. Thus, (just like you cannot connect directly to the controller from the tablet via bluetooth, per above) you cannot connect via a bluetooth wireless connection directly to a bluetooth receiver installed in a locomotive, regardless of scale. I may be completely wrong. Everything I've seen on this is in Japanese for the most part so I'll concede the language barrier has corrupted the communication. EDIT: After reviewing the video yet again (about the fourth time) I am absolutely convinced that what Bob and I are saying is correct. THERE IS NO BLUETOOTH INTERFACE IN THE DEVICE. Bluetooth is introduced by a third party converter, and simply converts the audio feed, nothing more.
Yes, I see this now. They have a device plugged into the larger USB terminal at the right side AND it connects to that "audio" jack on the controller. Thanks!
At 1:10 in the video of the original post, there is a unit that appears to be a Bluetooth-audio-receiver plugged into the audio jack of the controller and apparently getting power from a USB connector on the controller. Bob
So, needs further confirmation, but it appears that the commands from the app go by audio cable to the controller. There are many apps that did this before bluetooth and USB OTG were common. I'll stand by until someone that speaks English gets their hands on this. For now... MEH .... Greg
Use the Rokuhan Feeder cable and cut off the part that plugs into the track bed there are two wires in the cable separated them and connect on to the near side rial and the other to the far side rail.
John Use a standard track feeder from Rokuhan and undo the screw on the bottom and remove the cover to the wire connections and un-solder the wires or cut them off of the plug. Now you can strip back further, if needed, so you can put the wires in a screw terminal track piece, or solder them to a piece of track of your choice.
the app on the tablet can communicate with the E- controller with either the cable supplied by Rokuhan or if your tablet has blue tooth you can connect to E-controller via blue tooth.
The E- controller can act like any other DCC controller with the app you can use beginner mode where many things are accomplished without going to programming individual C's, by answering questions and scrolling list to choose your answer, but in advanced mode you can program individual CV's like on any other system, no keyboard is required the App display lets you choose the value to enter from a list that scrolls a list of values. The only thing that is a bit complicated is entering a 4 digit address, but they show examples of how to do, the calculation,s in two, two digit segments.
The E-controller comes with is own wall wart 12v 1.5 A same one as used with their other controllers RC002 and RC003.
I received my C005, E controller, this morning by express post from Japan. Now I have unpacked it and gone over the documentation. Blue tooth, the E-controller is set up for the addition of a Blue Tooth receiver with a dedicated USB port to connect a Blue Tooth receiver. Once this device is enabled then you have blue tooth discovery available and you can pair it with you smart phone or other device. Here is the list of receiver that have been tested to work with the e-controller and app from Rokuhan for the E-controller. Elcomm audio receiver LBT-AVWAR500 or LBT-AVWAR700; Aukey wireless receiver BR-C1, ;Collen transmitter and receiver 2 in 1 adapter;Dodocool transmitter and receiver DA88; Kashimura USB BL-51; Princeton music receiver PTM-BTR1 or PTM-BTR2; Toshiba wireless receiver TY_BT10; Century audio receiver BTTR-AV; Tao Tronics wieless sterieo receiver TT-BA01; TROND BT-DUO wireless receiver TT-BA01; MPOW Bluetooth 4 music receiver audio adapter; Ugreen wireless Blue tooth 4.1 receiver audio adapter; Inatech blue tooth transmitter and receiver BR1003; Jetech T2030; this list is curent as of July 2017 operating systems iOS version 8 or later; Android OS version 5 or later; Blue tooth confirmed for operation IOS version 8.4.1; I phone 5C iOS version 9.3.2; Iphone version 6.0; iOS version 10.2.1; iPAD Mini 4; Android 5.1.1; Nexus 10; Android 6.0; Galaxy tab S8.4; Android 7.0 Exeria SO-OG3; Android 7.1; Nexus 9; Please note depending on the models the App may not be compatible the information above is curren as of July 2017 Now to the connections on the E-Controller to track two plug in for Rokuhan track cables one two wire screw terminal conector, Programming track, one Rokuhan plug in one two wire screw terminal . 12v out one two wire screw terminal , 5 v out one two wire screw terminal. external speaker 3.5m jack and when plugged in speaker in E-controller is cut off; Booster DCC output 2.5mm jack.; blue tooth USB socket; socket for 3.5mm plug to tablet or phone ; LED power indicator ; power on /off switch, power jack for wall wart which some with unit. Manual supplied is 28 pages long one for English and One for Japanese They are both pocket book in outline size. At 10 inches from my eyes I can read it, but at approx 6 point text I do better with reading glasses at 12 inches. scanning and printing on 8.5 by 11 sheets it is comfortable read from the table top without glasses. regards Garth Hamilton, VE3HO
I received my E-controller to day by express mail from Japan. I have now down loaded the app and learned how to operate the android I will use with the E-controller, go t it connected to wi-fi and have searched for a blue tooth receiver. have a full calendar for rest of today and to-morrow so will try and get this going on Sunday in DC mode at least and see how it goes. so more later.
I have now down loaded the app and learned how to operate the android I will use with the E-controller, go t it connected to wi-fi and have searched for a blue tooth receiver. have a full calendar for rest of today and to-morrow so will try and get this going on Sunday in DC mode at least and see how it goes. so more later.
