And finally here's a shot inside the cab of one of these monsters'! It's the Big Boy 4012 near Scranton, PA, I got this off the internet while cruising it. Enjoy!! If you want some more Big Boy pics please feel free to shout out and say "YES!"!
Since we are on Big Boys I will add one of my absolute favorites! Present and future meet with the gorgeous station as a backdrop! The wonderful clean yellow of the Turbine contrasted with the grimey blacks of the Big Boy and all its steam wafting into the air tells a story rather than just being a picture in time. I just love it! My personal favorite engines are: 1. Big Boy 2. Challenger 3. Allegheny 4. Class A (or Appalachian as I call them) 5. 2-8-8-4s notably EM1s and DMIRs 6. Cab forwards AC 11/12s 7. 2-8-8-2s NW and ATSFs I figure the best one up there was the Challenger because of its versatility as either fast freight or passenger motive power. I imagine the 2-8-8-4s and Class A were next on the list. Just my two cents after reading tons about these engines. I know many will have a different view of things and I encourage it.
In this photo you can see a rather odd locomotive, the "Dwight D. Eisenhower", and if you look on the extreme right you'll notice U.P. Big Boy 4017 eyeing for a photo op.
Will, Nice pictures man.. thats some HUGH freight movers.... WOW But as you said the Challenger probably is the best of them you listed being it was able to do it all...... The Big Boys were frieght movers for high speed frieght, and the Yellowstones (EM-1's and DMIR's) were slow heavy lugger pulling loco's... They were all built for different jobs by the different railroads.... High speed frieght, slow tonage pullers, and the Challenger alittle of everything...... The 2-8-8-2's and the Allegheny were slow tonage movers as well.....
Heres one from Baldwin, a 2-6-6-2. A rare class for the B&O being the large wheel diameter, but was well liked by its crews.... Just as the B&O's KB-1, the 2-6-6-4's bought from Seaboard in 1947..... Then we have another rare loco.... a 4-4-4, "The Lady" as it was called by B&O trainmen... on the cab it says "Lady Baltimore" What a beauty!! [ 27 June 2001: Message edited by: 7600EM_1 ]
And for today..... One of the most colorfull loco's I've seen in the past it was just a regular "Reading" 4-8-4, but now we have a classic... "Chessie Steam Special" 4-8-4, T-1 #2101........... Just a beautifull loco, that I am modeling....... I just can't seem to find a picture to be trully honest if its got black on it or if that dark color is blue...... Anyone know for sure or seen this loco to say if the dark color is black or if its blue???? Heres a picture to look at......
We are going to set a record for the longest thread ever on Trainboard. Surely it will tax that Beta software. Gregg, thanks for the summary of the SP AC units. John, that Shay file is "ugly" and when I say that I mean it is too big (probably hundreds of KB) and therefore takes too long to load. Just letting you know, as someone once let me know when I started posting photos. The subject matter and the intent is just fine. And The B&O "Lady"--do you know what the diameter of the drivers were? They look enormous. I don't think Alan would agree that the Dwight D. Eisenhower is an odd looking loco, eh, Alan? Glad you kids are enjoying this thread. Sure wish we could all go back and see these beauties run again. Here's a challenge for you. Find a photo of B&O type DD-1 0-6-6-0, as that is the engine that Watash refers to as "Old Maude."
Well to me, the Dwight D. Eisenhower is kinda odd in a way, but it's still a train and thats a fact! As long as it runs on rails, chuffs along blowing steam and smoke then it's very much a "beast of burden".
UPBigBoy, I have to agree with you, but you see the Dwight D. E. engine is a British engine named in honor of Gen. Eisenhower for assisting them to win the War and defeat Hitler. My altime favorite engine is the AC-9 Yellowstone with the streamlining hood over the domes, simply because my dad used to race them across the western plains. Believe me they could fly! I have never found a good side view of one yet. Here is an AC-9: John, I have an erection diagram of the AT&SF 2-10-10-2 #3000 made 9-30-1913 by my Uncle J.T.Wilson, and the one pictured is not a flexible boilered one. It was made from two 2-10-2's welded into one long boiler. The two 'carry-over pipes' you see on the top were supposed to carry steam and hot air from one boiler to the front one. J.T. could not convince the powers that be, that unless they allowed him yo increase the fire box, the engine could not generate enough steam to be of use. The engines worked, but he was correct, and all ten engines were re-converted back to 2-10-2's. There were some that did have a bellows joint to allow the boilers to bend, but like you said, they all developed leaks, and one blew up. Fitz, I posted a photo of "Old Maude" a long time ago, when Art was going to sic "Goliath" on me! Remember? [ 28 June 2001: Message edited by: watash ]
Gee I don't remember seeing a picture of Old Maude on here, but then I may be having another Senior Moment, Watash. I didn't want to bring up what you did about the articulated boiler, but now that it has surfaced, it was the ATSF 3300 series. Can't believe they actually made what amounted to an "accordian" in the boiler, and I can imagine what kind of leaks and other problems developed.
Yeah Fitz, it was so bad that some cartoons came out about the accordianed boilers. One my dad had for a long time was showing a mallet with two guys standing back at the cab. One had both fists over the other guys' head and shouting,"I told you you have to start with both throttles! The front engine had gone about 40 feet foreward while the rear engine was still in place, and the sccordion joint was streatched between and sagged to the ground! Of course back in those days everyone knew the front engine was the articulated set of drivers, which would have merely run out from under the boiler, but the funny thing was the front boiler, drivers and all had go foreward. HA! In later years there was one about the trucks under a diesel being backwards, and it had pulled the diesel apart in the middle when they tried to move it. The broken parts were laying down on the track, and one guy was reaming the other about wiring it backwards. HA!
Ok Watash, you asked for it! Two 2-8-8-4s on with a full side view and the other about 3/4 view. Don't have them in color though. I have about five more if you are interested. So I must assume that nobody has any good 3/4 or full side shots of a color FEF-3 in gray? Come on guys somebody has one. Please post one for me.
Hey guys, Fitz, I'll come up with an "Old Maude" picture, I know of a slight few.... Let me find them and i'll post them all if you want and if I can find them all.......
Sorry guys, I got the LL-1's confused with the DD-1, LL-1's were 0-8-8-0's and the DD-1 was a 0-6-6-0. I seen all the 0-8-8-0 pictures and thought they were a 0-6-6-0! Anyway I have one thats a rareity to switchers! 2 of the biggest non articulated steam switchers in the USA.... Heres one of the 2...... The 2 of them are numbered 950 and 951 by the B&O....... HUGH monster switchers.. And best of all (to me) they are B&O!! at myself for confusing the LL-1's with the DD-1.. What a dumb mistake!!! And heres the other picture of the 2 HUGH non articulated steam switchers...... They are both 0-10-0's!!!! ENJOY.... [ 28 June 2001: Message edited by: 7600EM_1 ]
