Well it seems that BNSF is too involved in there Heritage paint schemes to keep their real heritage. So many BN locomotives are getting a fresh coat of pumpkin paint. Sadly, the GP38-2B has been repainted (so I hear) and their 20th anniversary is due for some fresh paint. Santa Fe helpers in Cajon have been placed with a set or two of Heritage I SD40-2s! Well, sorry to see them go! Cya down the line! Dash <A href="http://www.dashtrak.com">www.dashtrak.com
I was always under the assumption it was now the Bigger Newer Santa Fe... No reason to keep the Green around. I'm a childhood BN fan by the way...
I love the Green and Black and Yellow and Blue, but BNSF would like to show there new image and as a railfan i am disapointed cause we will miss the paint schemes we grew up with, but Life must go on. At some point though you have to realize that the Burlington Northern and the Santa Fe are both gone and BNSF is here. Kevin
Personaly, I don't mind the Heritage I color scheme. The B40-8s look really sharp in that, and unlike the already fading HII, HI seems like it has no ability to fade! I do reconize that BNSF is a company, and have to renumber old units and put there initials over everything, but I would like the oppertunity to see these units before they are sent for a Halloween Makeover Cya down the line! Dash www.dashtrak.com
Dash: I agree with you the H1 looks a lot better than the H2, too much yellow for me, but then again if it prevents an accident by being more visible it works. ------------------ Cotton Belt: Runs like a Blue Streak
Sorry Dash, i must agree with the consensus, this is BNSF,not ATSF or BN. Although i realize that BNSF is a combination of both SF and BN, it still is a NEW road. I too grew up loving the ATSF and during that time if it wasn`t blue and yellow or red and silver it did not exist. Thru time i came to also love BN. Now since the merger i reconize the new road as simply that.........NEW. SF and BN can and should hold special places in our hearts, but let`s all remember, here it is BNSF - 4 - LIFE ! Please don`t misunderstand me because i do feel your pain, but i take great pleasure in the fact that we are still an ALL AMERICAN railroad. The day that the Canadians become part of our road will really be a day for sorrow. So relax, sip on a cool one and enjoy the variety of paintschemes that is BNSF.
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Please don`t misunderstand me because i do feel your pain, but i take great pleasure in the fact that we are still an ALL AMERICAN railroad.[/B]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I have to question that statement Super C, isn't BNSF a public held company? This means shareholders from all over the world probably own part of the Company ------------------ Regards Paul Cassar-Moderator & Member number 50 SPAD Investigator #1 ICQ 61198217 http://users.bigpond.net.au/railroad2000
hmmm.i think the war bonnett is a fitting tribute to the atsf.just think if they painted all the engines to look like the vommit bonnett.i definately think we are blessed with the orange and green.but i do wonder why the h2 paint is fading and the h1 isn't.oh well i do like the h1 better. ------------------ anyone need a car call ed pinkley,home of the pinkley taurus.
Wasn't the point of the Heritage II to be the Santa Fe Warbonnet, GN orange, CB&Q silver and NP/SP&S green? If that's not paying tribute to the heritage of BN I don't know what is. Don't get me wrong, I still get excited to see Cascade Green, especially if the headlights are still between the number boards where God intended them to be. These days I'm just happy to see a train moving.
Conductor, please don`t take my comments out of context. As we all know, stockowners, unless they are major which is a very small percentage of all owners come and go as they buy and sell,so in my opinion are not trully owners, more like renters. If what you are saying is really true then i should be able to get a cab ride,take photos on railroad property or get acess to any BNSF daily activites any time my hearts desire. Hmm, i wonder what they would say if i enquired into these areas?
The fact that both HI and HII colorschemes included the elements of the past was the first thing I noticed about both, and I think HI does a better job at this. The BNSF logo is basicly the same as Santa Fe, but with added green and Burlington Northern. The colors were inverse of GN, and the way the design of the colors were similar to that of Burlington Northern's Cream and Green SD70MACs. One element I like about HII is the BNSF logo on the rear of the unit. I realize that both schemes contain elements of the past, but I would like for them to slow down there painting process, and give the railfans a chance to see locomotives like Pacific Pride II and BN 1991! Cya down the line! Dash Dashtrak.com
I take your point superC although some companies do give shareholders discounts etc. It would be great if shareholders could get some benefits like Cab rides or at least information on train running etc ------------------ Regards Paul Cassar-Moderator & Member number 50 SPAD Investigator #1 ICQ 61198217 http://users.bigpond.net.au/railroad2000
i thought i read in deisel era that the pacific pride units are both being scrapped.i hope its not true.did anyone else read that also? ------------------ anyone need a car call ed pinkley,home of the pinkley taurus.
I am not sure about Pacific Pride, but I read in Deisel Era that Pacific Pride II is getting a coat or two of HI. I got "lucky" and saw BN 1991...... but the catch was it was renumbered to 9299 and was in HII. Only a week after it was repainted to.... Cya down the line! Dash Dashtrak.com
The original Pacific Pride GP38 2075 blew a crankcase and was sidelined in Feb 92 It was replaced by GP38-2 2085 in April 92. 2075 was sent to the deadline at West Burlington and eventually rebuilt. I don't know the disposition of it, though I suspect 2075 would have been off roster by 95. Anyone have the later BN Annuals? Gary. ------------------ Gary A. Rose The Unofficial TC&W page TrainBoard Moderator and Member No.377 N to the Nth degree!
In response to the Pacific Pride inquiry, i just picked up the 2000 - 2001 BNSF Locomotive & Bussiness car review by Robert Del Grosso. On page 12 a photo of a BN GP38-2 2085 appears in the process of being sandblasted with a caption stating the BN geep was decorated Pacific Pride II in March of 1993 to replace GP38 Pacific Pride that had been severly damaged by fire in the engine compartment Feb.28,1992 and was later rebuilt as GP38-2. Both have been repainted into Heritage I. The 2085 in Sept,2000.
Since the merger they should have stuck with 1 color scheme, not a new one every time somebody else came up with an idea. We shouldn't have War Bonnets, Heritage I's and II unless all are. Personally I like the green (BN side o thee house) but I feel the Oranage colors are more visable and "safer" just my opinion.
