NYC Duel With Darren

fitz Jan 15, 2005

  1. Mike Kmetz

    Mike Kmetz TrainBoard Member

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    Nice photo of Hudson 5236. Looks like near as-built configuration.
    Still has the original tender and the lettering is Roman with serifs.
    I don't see the booster exhaust near the smoke stack. Were these originally applied only to the J-3s?
    [I know the J-3s so equipped soon had the boosters removed and feedwater heaters changed.]
    -Mike
     
  2. Hytec

    Hytec TrainBoard Member

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    For what it's worth, Wikipedia identifies the "Baltic" as a MILW 4-6-4.

    For my money, the 4-6-4 will always be J-Class Hudsons, and those other roads out in the Boonies west of Buffalo merely copied ALCO's excellent insperation.....! :teeth:
     
  3. fitz

    fitz TrainBoard Member

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    Mike, it's good to see you back here. Notes on Mr. Vollrath's photo of 5236 say it was taken in 1936, and yes, it looks "as built" even with Walschaert valve gear. As for the booster exhaust, there were many different configurations and I don't know where it is on this engine.
    Hank, Roger that!! :teeth:
     
  4. r_i_straw

    r_i_straw Mostly N Scale Staff Member

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    This old topic explains it all. The Milwaukee acctually designed theirs before the NYC.
     
  5. fitz

    fitz TrainBoard Member

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    I had forgotten that old discussion we had, Russell, and you are right, the Milwaukee had the idea first, or maybe concurrent, with Paul Kiefer of the NYCS. Perhaps the fact that the Central had theirs delivered first, and went on to operate 275 of the type had something to do with the name that stuck. :D
     
  6. MOPACJAY

    MOPACJAY TrainBoard Member

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    3001 is on display at the National New York Central Railroad museum in Elkhart, Indiana.She is located across from the Elkhart passenger station right on the NS mainline,a great place to railfan and explore some historical equipment.I have been there myself many times and managed to sneak up in the cab of 3001 (shhhh),It is unbelievable how large these engines actually are.http://www.nycrrmuseum.org/
     
  7. fitz

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    Mopacjay, welcome to the NYCS forum. Do you have any photos of the 3001 at Elkhart? I'd be interested to see her condition. LEW sent me some a few years ago. Being stored outside she's probably deteriorating. :sad:
     
  8. MOPACJAY

    MOPACJAY TrainBoard Member

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    I do have some pix somewhere,will find and get posted on here.All in all she is cosmetically looking well,as she is in a secured area and not as prone to vandalism etc.Gimme a few days and I will get those pics dug out,thanks for the warm welcome.
     
  9. fitz

    fitz TrainBoard Member

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    Meantime, here is one that LEW took and sent me, of the 3001 at Elkhart a few years ago.

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