Dutch Trains

John Whitby Apr 19, 2001

  1. John Whitby

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    Sorry Hank but I personally don't have any photos of Norwegian trains so I thought that I would start the ball rolling (hopefully) with some photos taken in Amsterdam about 10 years ago. I hope that we have some NS experts in the forum because I am pretty sure that some of the locos shown in the photos are no longer in service. I don't know a great deal about Dutch railways but they certainly had some unusual and colourful motive power. Enjoy the photos and any details of the current Dutch loco position will be appreciated.
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  2. Hytec

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    John, thank you very much. They are nice photos.
    My wife and I were berthed directly across from Centraal while aboard a Rhine River Cruise Boat in July 1998. I remember seeing some of the locos you show. Specifically those that look like a "lonely worm" [​IMG] (photos #1, 4, & 6), and the one with the raised cab in photo #7. Was the loco in photo #2 built by FLC/France? It looks very similar to the one that was assigned to Le Mistral on SNCF during 1970/71, except for the paint scheme.
    Thanks again, Hank

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  3. Alan

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    Photo 1 is a Plan mP Single Unit Postal Van. Built 1965-66

    Photo 2. Class 1600, based on the SNCF class BB7200, built 1981-83 by Alsthom.

    Photo 3. These class 1200 freight electrics were built in 1951-53, from 'kits', the trucks were supplied by Baldwin, and the electrical parts by Westinghouse. Later ran passenger trains also. All now withdrawn, I believe. Much loved by local railfans.

    Photo 4. DE111 3-car unit, built 1960-63.

    Photo 5. Class 1100, built by Alsthom in 1950-56, and based on the French BB8100 class. Rebuilt by NS in 1978-82, and fitted with the new nose (they were originally flat-fronted). I believe the new nose was fobre-glass! I think all are now withdrawn.

    Photo 6. Another class 1600, based on the SNCF class BB 7200.

    Photo 7. One of the remakable looking "Koploper" units. First ones built around 1983-89, later ones 1990 onwards.

    Photo 8. Class 1300, based on the French CC7100 class.Built by Alsthom in 1952-56.

    I have not yet visited Holland, so thanks for the pictures, John [​IMG]
     
  4. Hytec

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    Alan, thank you very much for the notes. That makes the photos even more interesting.

    Yes, I agree that the Kloploper units look "Remarkable"! Actually, I think you are being very kind :D

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    Photo #7 looks like they took part of a Boeing 747 airplane and stuck it on top :eek:
     
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    Great photos John and very informative "captions" from Alan.

    On the subject of European railways generally, "Todays Railways" is an excellent monthly magazine with very good photographic coverage and a good balance between historical and current topics.

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  7. John Whitby

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    Alan....Thanks for providing the captions. At the time of posting the pics I couldn't find my trusty Platform 5 Book !!!
    Hank....Glad the photos brought back memories. Incidently my wife and I did a Rhine cruise in 1999 and I was amazed at the amount of rail traffic that can be seen especially Between Köln and Koblenz. It was hard to choose between watching the beautiful scenery and the constant procession of trains on either bank.
    Ben....I agree "Todays Railways" is a great magazine for anyone interested in European railways (another plug for Platform 5 Publications)
    Another question possibly for Alan.....The Dutch like to give their trains affectionate names like "Koploper" but do you know what it means ? Some of the units like the one in photo 4 are also known as "Hondekop" which apparently means Dog Head. There is also a diesel class known as "Wadloper" meaning mud-flat runner.
    I have also read that the Dutch Post Office no longer use rail transport so the class of units shown in photo 1 might have disappeared
    Bye for now,
    John.

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  8. Alan

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    I did take "Todays Railways" on subscription when it first appeared, but let the subscription lapse when I started to buy American mags. :( I think I will order it from my local newsagent, as it is indeed a very good magazine for keeping up to date on European Rail happenings.

    The predecessors of the DE111 unit shown in the photos was indeed called "Hondekop". They do have names for most of them [​IMG] The 1200 class were called "Electric Deltics" by British fans, I believe!

    My wife and her mum went on a Rhine cruise a few years ago, and she made me envious telling me how many trains they saw :(
     
  9. Hytec

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    John, you say there was natural scenery along the banks of the Rhine beyond the rails? :D

    Friend, I saw more trains in one hour on both river banks between Cologne and Koblentz than I see all day here in the States ... and my house is backed up to the CSX Mainline into New Orleans. Although, I will say that the DB freights are TINY! :eek: I mean, really! ... a through freight of less than 20 cars barely rates even a driver, let alone a locomotive :D

    I wish our society here in North America had not had its infernal love affair with that D....D Automobile! :mad: You guys have such a great rail network, and cultural support!

    Thanks, Hank
     
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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by John Whitby:

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    <font color="336633">The coaches and driving cab on these look great, I think they are one of the best (if not the best) sets around, I always fancyed a model of these.</font>

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