NYC Fall 1941 Empire State Express

rhensley_anderson Apr 21, 2010

  1. rhensley_anderson

    rhensley_anderson TrainBoard Supporter

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    Fall 1941
    Empire State Express 4-6-4 Hudson 5429 ready for a run
    Ed Nowak photo - Roger Hensley Collection

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  2. Hytec

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    Lovely, you certainly have access to some wonderful photos, Roger...Thanks!

    I have always preferred the Empire's design over the Century's the many times I saw them from the bluff overlooking the Harmon(-on-Hudson) Engine Terminal.
     
  3. fitz

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    I agree. IMHO they all looked better without the streamlining, but if they had to be streamlined, the ESE looked better. Very nice photo, Roger. Ed Nowak was using color film in 1941 which had to be rare. On a historic "quirk of fate" note, the official first run of the ESE was scheduled, and took place, on December 7, 1941. Therefore it got little of the expected publicity. :tb-sad:
     
  4. pjcsea

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    Of course maintenance etc. made them impractical long-term, but I love all these art-deco steam-streamliners ... the ATSF Blue Goose, the Reading Crusader, UK Mallard, and all the better and lesser know examples. Thanks for a lovely photo!
     
  5. Charlie

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    Any members on this board ever have a chance to ride the E.S.E.? Just wondering what
    it was like.

    Charlie
     
  6. fitz

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    Not me. We were "po." Even though dad had a pass on the Central, we only rode the local that stopped in Little Falls, NY.
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  7. Hytec

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    I believe my mother and I rode the Empire from Harmon to Syracuse in 42 or 43, though it could have been the Pacemaker. I do remember being told the train was all "day-coach", and since they both were...who knows?

    Interesting, I never thought of it before, but I remember that we called non-Pullman trains such as the Pacemaker "all day-coach" trains, and called the individual cars "day-coaches". I guess to differentiate them from the coaches that were actually Pullman Section sleepers, though with coach-like seating during the day. Anybody else remember this?
     

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