Okay heres the list we compiled of the GE and ALCOs used in the US and Canada GE 4 Axle U7B U18B U23B U25B U28B U30B U33B U36B B23-7/R/S B30-7/R/S/A/AB/B B36-7/R/S/E/U B32-8/E/PH B36-8/E/W (W was GE demo) B39-8/E/W (W was GE demo) B40-8/E/W P40BHDC/AC P42BHDC/AC GE Six Axle U25C U28C P28CG U30C P30CH/G U33C U34CH U36C U50C C30-7/A C33-7 (BN C30-7 with traded in U33C engine) C36-7/M/R C32-8/E C39-8/E C40-8/W/M C41-8W (ATSF C40-8W varitive) C42-8/W (CNW C40-8 varitave) C44-8W (CSX C44-9W with some -8 equipment) C39-9 (GE's load testing demo) C40-9/W (NS C44-9W) C44-9W/L/R AC4400CW/CTE AC6000CW/T (CSX ones have a T in there name. I do not know why) GE Eight Axles U50 ALCo Four axle FA1/FB1/FA2/FB2/FA4/FB4 S1/S2/S3/S4/S5/S6 T6 RS1 RS2 RS3 RS4 RS5 RS11 RS12 RS15 RS17 RS18 RS28 RS32 C415 C420/M C424/M C425/M C428/M C430/-2/M C436/-2/M ALCo Six Axle DL101/102/103 PA1/PB1/PA2/PB2/PA4/PB4 RSD1 RSD2 RSD3 RSD4 RSD5 RSD12 RSD15 RSD17 RSD18 C628 C/M630/R/W C/M636/R/W M640 ALCo 8 Axle C855 There it is the GE/ALCo locomotive list
P32ACDM - used in Empire State service with Amtrak, 3rd rail capable. And what about the DL109/110? C44-8W - this is an oddity, and technically is a C44-9W in a C40-8W carbody (no split cooling). 9000-9002 have this. C40-9(W) - just a 4000 HP dash 9, rather than 4400, so it's not a "NS C44-9W" And, I've never seen a CSX CW60AC with a "T" in the name. If you read under the cab, the unit ID is CW60AC. Where did you read this one?
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> C40-9(W) - just a 4000 HP dash 9, rather than 4400, so it's not a "NS C44-9W" And, I've never seen a CSX CW60AC with a "T" in the name. If you read under the cab, the unit ID is CW60AC. Where did you read this one?[/B]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Okay the NS C40-9/W are indeed derated C44-9W, NS derated them for fuel/maintance/prefernce reasons but they can be run at 4400 HP but to do so there are two keys that need to be turned, one by a maintance guy and the other by a motive power manager. (kinda reminds me of one of those nuclear missle movies ) As for the AC6000CWT I have no idea what the "T" stands for but on some GE paperwork and info I got to see they had the T in the name, appernently CSX is overlooking the T just like they call there C44-8W "C44-9W".
Don't forget the first(?) GE diesel to run on North American rails ... the Ingersoll-Rand-GE box-cab switcher. I think it was numbered 1000, and used by the B&O starting in 1925, but I could be mistaken. Of course GE had been making gas-electric cars since about 1905, but they were not locomotives in the strict sense. Hank
The six axle ALCo list seems to be missing the ALCO DL-535, 1250HP engines as used on the WP & YR ? Sorry if I missed something this is my first post to this list.
Rod, Welcome to trainboard i hope you enjoy it here as much as i do. great to see you post and look forward to seeing you visit more often
<font color="336633">Alco/MLW RS36, RS27, RSC2, C643H, M420B, M420TR, M420W, MRS1, RS10, RS23, RSC14, RSC24, S7, S10, S11, S12, S13. GE U23C 25T, 44T, 45T, 50T, 65T, 70T, 80T, 90T, 100T, 110T.</font> [ 22 March 2001: Message edited by: StickyMonk ]
<font color="336633">Some of the locos you listed i have never heard of like the RS12, RS15, RS17. where were these locos used?</font>
The RS12 was built by Baldwin. It was an upgraded version of the DRS-4-4-1000. Chessie, you also left out the RS10, basically an RS18 with an FA-2 engine. [ 22 March 2001: Message edited by: E&NRailway ]
RS18u The big difference between an RS10 and an RS18, the RS10 had the PacMan on the short hood where as the RS18's had the PacMan on the long hood. RS10 RS18 RS23
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by StickyMonk: <font color="336633">Some of the locos you listed i have never heard of like the RS12, RS15, RS17. where were these locos used?</font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Okay I really managed to screw the Alcos up on this one. I must have goten a brain fart because I ment to put those as RSD12 and 15 and 17. Earilyier I had mentioned a RS28 and a RS32, these never really exsisted and what I ment to say was the RS27 and the RS36. (another brain fart )
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by rodblakeman: The six axle ALCo list seems to be missing the ALCO DL-535, 1250HP engines as used on the WP & YR ? Sorry if I missed something this is my first post to this list.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> DL-535s are a RSD12 if memory serves me right I also forgot to mention the SP hydrolics (DH-643) Sometimes called C643H
The Arkansas & Missouri Railroad website, http://www.arkansasmissouri-rr.com/ is showing one RS-32 on its active duty roster. I believe it's used almost daily, and has been for many years. Also the WP&Y DL-535's don't look anything like the RS-12's that I remember seeing years ago, but I could be wrong on this last. Also the WP&Y runs on 3 foot guage if this makes a difference. Hank [ 22 March 2001: Message edited by: Hank Coolidge ]
<font color="336633">I also forgot the SSB9, only 2 was built for Oliver Iron Mining, its basicly a S6 cow and calf set</font>
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hank Coolidge: Also the WP&Y DL-535's don't look anything like the RS-12's that I remember seeing years ago, but I could be wrong on this last. Also the WP&Y runs on 3 foot guage if this makes a difference. Hank [ 22 March 2001: Message edited by: Hank Coolidge ]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Yeah it does make a differnce. I had another "brain fart" (suprise suprise)the DL-535 is not a RSD12 I got confused with something else. Then on the RS-32 info you are correct. I checked my notes (something I should have done at the very begaining) and Conrail owned 23 RS-32 inherted from the NYC/PC. But still there is no RS-28
My 2 cents. The 35 RS32s were built in 1961-62 for the NYC-25units and SP-10 units. You can also add in the FPA-2 and FPB-2s. These had a separate Alco DL # from the FA-2s and FB-2s. Why did we start this thread?
