New 3x10 N gauge layout suggestions/ideas/advice

Adam Senior Oct 25, 2021

  1. Shortround

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    I've seen a lot of that in Milwaukee and Waukesha as well. Lots and lots of fun driving through.
     
  2. Joe Lovett

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    Cynthia and I were at the location shown in your photos about four months ago. Wish I had taken some photos of the bottling plant because it's such a cool industry with a lot of rail service.

    Joe
     
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    I found it in Google Maps satellite view. Try searching for "John Hudgins Plumbing" in google maps, and it will put you a block or so south of where those photos were apparently taken. You can use Google maps' street view to see what it looks like from ground level from different points along the road.
     
  4. Shortround

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    I did similar to see it.

    But then they do modify images on those photos. Look up my street address and see a picture of the front from across the street. My '98 Dodge Dakota is out front. It's a 4x4 extended cab. But, they modify it. In the picture it is a crew cab - four door cab. Like is so popular in the suburbs these days. What else gets modified to there desires. :whistle::ROFLMAO:
     
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    That's artificial, not human, intelligence stitching those images together. AI is data driven, and since crew cabs are more popular (and more often imaged), the stitching routine probably assumed it was a crew cab.
     
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    The images that I posted are screenshots from Google maps street view and satellite view or whatever it's called.

    Sumner
     
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  7. Adam Senior

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    Thanks for the info/suggestions. Using google maps/street view is an awesome idea to get some visual references.

    I've pretty much finished my rock panting and I'm now jumping into planting some grass and the like.
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    I have a couple of turnouts in the mail, so my plan is to get those and my layout up and running so that I can do some modeling and then some train ops as I really want to run some locos :D
     
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    Hey all, another little update. Also, wondering if I could get some thoughts on road markings.

    Two images of the layout, got most of my main scenery done. Testing track now before I start ballasting.
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    I want to do my road markings but I do want it to be somewhat accurate. Below is a little mockup I worked on, as I feel if I go in blind, I might make a mess of it. This way, I will have something to work from.

    Road marking idea below: Still need to add stop lines. I think I will make the town a one-way system.
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    Thanks!
     
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  9. BigJake

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    Awesome scenery!!!

    Looks like you've got main street set up with the spur track down the middle. Should be yellow stripes on either side of the track, if there are no other barriers, and RR crossing for righthand bound traffic on the left end, and both directions on the right end. The right-bound roadway in front of the tracks might limit your striped parking lot.

    Don't forget broad white stop lines, and cross walks.
     
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    Thanks, BigJake! I'm happy with how it's coming together. Appreciate the comments/advice.

    I actually just looked up the town that I took inspiration from (not sure why I didn't do that before) https://www.google.com/maps/@38.407...fh1AL0BNSG22V4i_9g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e4

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    Will make sure to add the stoplines/cross walks. I don't need it to be 100% accurate, I just want to make sure it makes sense. And, from looking at other towns, it looks like road markings were an after though too :D

    Once the trees go on! Will look awesome.

    Choochoo!
     
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    That's a very interesting photo. From the direction cars are parked, clearly the street has two-way traffic, yet there are not two lanes (unless one is on top of the tracks? It would be interesting to see traffic control when the tracks are being used by trains...
     
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    I have seen such streets. The tracks didn't seem to be used and driving on that side of the street was interesting.
    It was back in the '60-'80s so they may be gone now.
     
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    @BigJake — any suggestions for road marking techniques? — I purchased the woodland scenics pens and for some reason and I'm not sure if its just a bad pen, but the white does not work well. The yellow, no problems at all.
     
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    Yep, two lanes, with one on top of the tracks:
     
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    La Grange, Ky. I remember going through there and on that street in '68. On a Harley. I see from the video they like stopping at signs as much as they do here.
     
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    Sorry, when I get there, I'll probably use pre-striped roadway material. I'm clearly not as artistic as you are!

    I think paint pens are probably a very good way, but you might also look into automotive pinstriping tape.

    You could also mask off both sides of the road, and use a hand-held dodger with a gap the length of the stripe 'dashes' you want, and spray paint the stripes.
     
  17. Adam Senior

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    Hey @BigJake, or anyone else. I have a question about my turnout system. I have my layout set — all of my Kato points are run underneath my layout. I am thinking of simply hooking these up to the Kato DC unit and having a row of 18 switches. This does beg the question though, on what other options I have. In my head the Kato route is going to be the easiest. Yet... would now be a good idea to explore other options. I think this approach will work best for me, but I do know I can use my Digitrax unit to switch points, I just can see that becoming a huge wiring job. Any input would be great.
     
  18. BigJake

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    Digitrax DS74 stationary decoders (on steroids) will control up to four switches (even four double crossovers). If you are going to bring all the switch solenoid leads back to a bank of switches, it is not much more wiring to put the DS74's there instead, and wire the DS74s to your Loconet and power supply. The DS74s also let you define "routes" to coordinate the control of multiple switches to access desired tracks, rather than having to throw all the required switches individually.

    There are other solutions for throwing switches under the control of your throttle/JMRI, but since you have a Digitrax system, the DS74 is probably the simplest to integrate.
     
  19. CSX Robert

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    If you're not going to have any kind of automation, not going to have signaling affected by turnout position, and not going to use routes, then I wouldn't bother with controlling the turnouts with DCC.

    P. S. You can have simplified two color signals controlled directly by the turnout without the DCC control of the turnout.
     
  20. in2tech

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    WS video using the paint pens. Look at time stamp 2:30, when she vents the pen. I have a cheap set with 12 colors and they all work, and I have to do that venting stuff. Sometimes I have to push it DOWN on cardboard or something for a bit, till it starts ti flow. Or you have a BAD dried up pen!



    Those pens are expensive so bought an entire 12 color set for like $10.00 from Amazon. And love them!
     

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