New York Central J-3 5405

fitz Dec 10, 2015

  1. fitz

    fitz TrainBoard Member

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    Hello O Scale folks. I am not a modeler, just deal with the real steam. A friend alerted me to this O scale NYC Hudson for sale, it's brass, and $700 price. I would like to know if you can tell from looking at it who marketed it. Sorry I don't know the details of 2 vs 3 rail, etc. but will try to find out. Thanks.

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  2. BoxcabE50

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    Could you post a picture showing the underside of the engine and tender? We can then see it it has a third rail pickup. And also any markings on it's bottom.
     
  3. fitz

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    I don't have it, and the photos were sent to me, so I have no clue, but have asked the person who sent me the photos.
     
  4. ScaleCraft

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    I'm looking at the photos...and the flanges. It ain't three rail, not with those pregnant ant flanges.
    Tubular rail will not, full stop, hold scale flanges.
    Being brass, could be a whole lot of manufacturers.
    I had a brass one years ago..actually 17/64ths scale...MiLoco. I have a sand cast bronze one still...ScaleCraft.
    The wheelbase, the flanges, the COUPLERS...the flanged drivers....all make it one of those things we wonder why would there be a three-rail, scale, brass loco, scale flanges and couplers that you have to use scale 2-rail track, switches, scale curvature (like, more than six foot RADIUS) and then lay a third rail down the middle and not go 2-rail in the first place.
    Happens, but...
    So many manufacturers made Hudsons and K-4s over the years, there are about 10,000 times more of the models than the real thing.
    So, I'd like to see some underbody shots. Help identify drive, pickups, those kind of things.

    Oh...and in the early days, before insulating wheels was well thought out, three rail scale 0 was quite common, except the third rail was outside, with whiskers sticking out the sides of the loco and tender, which are not shown in those photos.

    Nice loco.
     
  5. fitz

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    From what I have learned, poking around the net, it looks like it might be a Williams model, which would make it three rail? If it is a Williams, I have seen them for sale for much less than $700. Thanks, ScaleCraft for your input.
     
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    Oh...and the Williams has spoked drivers, while a cursory inspection of your photo seems to indicate curved spokes at the outer edges, indicating Boxpok drivers.
     
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    Lightened and cropped. For sure scale flanges, for sure #2 driver is flanged, for sure Boxpok.

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  10. fitz

    fitz TrainBoard Member

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    Thanks for your inputs, Dave.
     

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