NYC NYC Mohawk #3001

SBTX Feb 18, 2001

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    Okay, my question on this engine is simple, but setting the stage for it is going to take a moment. This Mohawk resided at the Age of Steam Museum here in Dallas until the early 80s when it was traded for GG1 4903 and moved to the museum in Elkhart IN.

    In the late 1950s, the 3001 replaced the T&P 610's only surviving sister, the 638, when it succumbed to vandalism and theft and wound up having to be scrapped. The 3001 was dressed up in T&P livery (but also kept its NYC logos as well).

    I have in the past heard this Mohawk referred to as "NYC 3001/ex-T&P 909", but if I'm not mistaken, the T&P had its own 4-8-2 mountain types that it purchased from ALCO and Baldwin. A historic picture of the last T&P Mountain, number 909, bears no resemblance to NYC Mohawk 3001.

    My question is this, and I am pretty sure the answer is no.......did the 3001 ever turn a wheel under revenue service on the Texas & Pacific? I've heard the T&P played some kind of role in saving 3001 from the torch, but I can't confirm this story. Considering how few NYC steamers survive, there surely must be a very interesting story behind this one being saved.

    How this engine was saved in the 1950s, wound up where it did and why has always intrigued my curiosity. Anyone who has any info, thanks in advance.


    Regards,


    Stuart B.
    Dallas, TX

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  2. hudsonut1

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    I'm suprised that this has not been answered.
    I have not seen too much in print about the "deal" envolving the 3001 going to Dallas,maybe no one knows the rest of the story,I don't...but what I have heard is that the the 3001 was sold to the T&P to replace the damaged T&P loco because they had none left. The 3001 never did run on the T&P but was simply a replacement,for which all NYC fans are happy....
    Perhaps someone from the Museum in Elkhart has more info...
    Ron
     
  3. fitz

    fitz TrainBoard Member

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    Ron, meet Stuart. He knows about the cars you saw in the Fort Worth yard. Sorry I haven't been watching closely the last few days. We are visiting family. :rolleyes:
     
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    Thanks for the reply, guys. Fitz I believe has seen this shot before, but here is a pic of the Mohawk when it was in Dallas in 1983.

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    Got two others of it on my website under the Age of Steam if you're interested in looking, Ron. I put the link in the passenger car post, but here it is again......
    http://home.swbell.net/db2318/Front_Page.htm

    Stuart :cool:

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