NYC NYC Quiz of the day

fitz Jan 16, 2001

  1. fitz

    fitz TrainBoard Member

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    What's different about this Niagara from all the others that the NYC ran? I know Roger and Ron know the answer. How about some of you other NYC fans? The photo is from the collection of Harold K. Vollrath. [​IMG]

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  2. hudsonut1

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    ditto

    However I do have a real question (with no answer forth coming from me).What is/was the purpose of the small hole in the smoke deflector's (of most) of the Mohawks?
    Roger..do you feel a little like Rudolph..not being able to play in the reindeer games?
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  3. watash

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    I'll bet its Alco's #800. [​IMG]

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    the headlight is incorrect I think am i right?? [​IMG]

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  5. fitz

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    Wow! We'll have to do this more often. Thanks for the responses. No, it's not the 800, built in 1931 whereas these Niagaras were built in 1945-46. No, the headlight is correct. I have a photo of the 800 somewhere and will post it when I find it. Ron, what hole in the Mohawk smoke deflectors? I never noticed.

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  6. fitz

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    Watash, here's the 800. Builder's photo, again from Harold K. Vollrath's collection. She had 69" drivers as opposed to 75-79" on the Niagaras, plus had some of that scary 800psi steam piping on her. Also the third driver was the main driver, where the second was on the Niagaras.
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  7. eddelozier

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    Were they experimenting with 'roller bearings' on the rods in place of solid brass. The picture seems to show it?

    Just a guess.
    ...Eddie

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  8. FriscoCharlie

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    Very interesting! Thanks for the quiz!

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  9. fitz

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    Eddie, nope. All of the Niagaras had roller bearings. Remember they were built in 1945-46. Guess we'll have to keep this going.
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  10. hudsonut1

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    Comeon,Jim,givem my clue...
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  11. fitz

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    Ok, guys, Ron said that "It wasn't a very poppular engine with the crews". If that doesn't solve it, I don't know what will.
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  12. watash

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    OH I know I know!

    It had no running water in the toilet!

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  13. No running water in the toilet? Well, it did have steam heat (chortle, chuckle, choke) and Fitz did give you a clue in his last message.

    The answer is available on the web, but you have to search it out. (Oh, 'Good Grief'. This much be catching!)

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  15. watash

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    Looks like the engineer has the convertible top down. Its maybe the #1111 Alco experimental, or the #6001 (noting the odd steam piping over the cylinders) that had the regenerating steam super pressure super heating system. Could it be a Mohawk in disguise?? [​IMG] (tease, snicker)

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  16. fitz

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    Roger, yeah, you are getting into the spirit of things. Corey, go back and read that clue again along with the spelling. Watash, man you've got it, just look closer. I haven't had this much fun since we Popped some champagne on New Year's.

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  17. watash

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    I wont tell Fitz. By the way, Fitz, I'm also interested in John Deere tractors from driving then during harvest, they were very poppular where ever you could hear them, so I'm on your side, farmer! [​IMG]

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  18. eddelozier

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    Congratulations, Eddie. That's the answer. You can tell from (as Watash pointed out) the extra steam plumbing around the cylinders, lack of an eccentric rod to drive the valve, etc. She also had an air pump, visible in the photo, on the engineer's side, which the others did not. Does anyone have any good technical info on the poppet valve system? I know it was cam driven and contained a bunch of valves not unlike those in our automobile engines to admit and exhaust steam from the cylinders. New York Central numbered this engine 5500, called her class "S-2" to differentiate from the S-1's numbered 6000-6026. Shame there weren't more of them. Sure were great looking and great performing machines. Stand by for the next quiz.

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