1. John Barnhill

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    Years ago while railfanning shortlines in Oregon, I photographed what my references called the Peninsula Terminal RR in Portland. Reporting marks on the locos were PTRR though the reporting marks in other references are just PT.
    There are also many resources for a Portland Terminal RR with reporting marks of PTRR. Some discussions and references say this road still exists to some extent. Anyone know if the Peninsula Terminal and Portland Terminal are indeed separate entities or is there a mixup somewhere?? Thanks to anyone who can clear this up for me.
     
  2. BoxcabE50

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    Can you post a photo? I have a few views I'd grabbed of Portland Terminal. There was also Portland Traction, the dieselized remnant of an interurban operation.
     
  3. John Barnhill

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    138 and 140 both carry PTRR marks while just out of image is 1201 with just PT on the side.
     
  4. BoxcabE50

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    Peninsula Terminal Company.
     
  5. John Barnhill

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    That's what I have these as. My question is, are these also being referred to as Portland Terminal or is Portland Terminal an entirely different operation nearby?
     
  6. BoxcabE50

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    Portland Terminal was and should still be jointly owned by BNSF and UP. Peninsula Terminal is an independent short line.

    The whole thing can be confusing, having three companies in town which have existed using "PT" initials.
     
  7. YoHo

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    Where does Penninsula Terminal operate?
     
  8. BoxcabE50

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    North Portland. Up near the riverfront.
     
  9. John Barnhill

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    Ok, separate entities. Perfect! Thanks! I have a roster I've built for Peninsula Terminal and have been trying to keep the two separate. At times I have wondered if they all were one and the same but that didn't seem right. Again thanks!
     
  10. Mr. SP

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    KenShattock003.jpg hollywoodtrolley03_1_.jpg Portland_813_at_Willamette_Shore_Trolley's_Bancroft_St_terminus,_May_2010.jpg The Peninsula Terminal Railroad was separate from the Portland Terminal. The Peninsula Terminal was in north Portland and served industries there.
    The Portland Terminal was originally Northern Pacific Terminal and then later Portland Terminal. The Portland Terminal was in northwest Portland and served industries there and also Lake Yard and Union Station.
    There was also Portland Traction which was until December 1958 the streetcar/interurban system for Portland. It's lines ran from S.E. Portland to Boring and Oregon City.
    The photos are of the Portland Traction cars and SW-1.
    There was teh Broadway Cars, Indiana Cars and the last cars were the Hollywood Cars from the Pacific Electric Most of the cars were cut up for scrap in 1959-60
     

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  11. Mr. SP

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    Somehow the photos got uploaded several times????????????????
     
  12. BoxcabE50

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    Portland Terminal still exists, jointly owned by BNSF and UP. Despite it's original name, it was not completely owned by NP. It was SP (Oregon & California RR); UP (OR&N) and NP. The way the shares were originally broken down, I wonder if the UP is now majority owner?
     
  13. BoxcabE50

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    Not sure what happened. I've edited it down to three. Hope I did not accidentally remove one?
     
  14. Mr. SP

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    Got them OK just need to re tell which car is which. The top photo is a Indiana Car. Next is a Hollywood Car and the bottom photo is a Broadway Car
    The Broadway cars were originally narrow gauge but some were converted to standard gauge in the 1940's
     
  15. friscobob

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    That SW1 is a photo I took while in Oregon over the winter of 2006/2007. Also in that list of pictures is the eclectic collection of diesel switchers stored on the property, including several centercab GEs, a GE 25-tonner, a GE-70-tonner, and an ex-US Army Geep with switcher trucks. ALso, this line is/was used by the the folks who operate SP&S 700 and SP 4449 for the Annual Holiday Express.
     
  16. Mr. SP

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    img646.jpg img635.jpg img655.jpg Portland Traction is still around but is part of Oregon Pacific owned by Dick Samuels
    The Portland Terminal is all absorbed into BNSF.
    The Peninsula Terminal is in north Portland and serves industries in the terminal six area.
     
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  17. BoxcabE50

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    They must have recently bought out the UP's share?
     
  18. wcfn100

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    No, it's still jointly owned.

    Jason
     

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