Scratch Z Scale Opera Centerbeam

rray Apr 12, 2004

  1. rray

    rray Staff Member

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    I deleated the pics here because I finished the model, so I posted the updates below :D

    [ 17. April 2004, 23:39: Message edited by: pray59 ]
     
  2. Colonel

    Colonel Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Robert,

    that looks excellent are you looking at going into Z scale?
     
  3. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Was wondering what you've been up to! You've been quiet for a while!

    That car is impressive. How did you get some weight into it? Or is it adequate in Z as is?

    :D

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  4. rray

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    The Z Scale caboose was one I made into a kit last year, just after I made the N Scale NP caboose kit. I also made an NYC 19000 series caboose in Z and N.

    The centerbeam is something I got a wild hair for yesterday afternoon, so only 3 hours are invested in that model so far. I will have to glue a couple small lead weights under it still. It needs a few more details, then some decals. I don't know if I will make it a kit or not, I was thinking that I could build them up and trade for some Z Scale locomotives with someone who wants something otherwise unavailable. What do you think? :D
     
  5. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    I'd say that you may have something with that idea.

    :D

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  6. rray

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    I finished making 2 different models of Thrall Centerbeam cars this
    week. First is the BN Opera Window style 60' car, which I made decals
    for today:

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    The other is the 66' Thrall Centerbeam in BN livery after repainting:

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    Here is the 66' car in it's original NP paint. The NP only had 5
    Centerbeam cars, and as you know, being a fan of NP, I had to have
    them:

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    Here is a string of the 3 I made so far:

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    They are all made of wood, go together reasonably easy, (1 hour, less
    paint and decals), and if intrest is there, I will probably make a few kits
    available.

    [​IMG] -Robert
     
  7. Colonel

    Colonel Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Robert,

    These are excellent models, so have you given up on N scale or is this just a side hobby lol.

    Is that a module or a new layout?
     
  8. rray

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    No, I still model in N Scale predominantly, however I have a roving eye for Z. There are some guys out here that are talking about starting up a Z Scale Modular club, and I figure I can build a nice Z Bend Track module, and participate.

    The thing I like about Z Scale, is that the field is wide open. Nothing is available yet, so I figure I can fill a few voids easy enough, and keep my Z roster filled with mostly pacific northwest flavored models.

    Worldwide there were 2 prototypes made into US prototype cabooses, I doubled the available choices with my NP and NYC kits :D

    Worldwide there are 3 US flat cars available, and 1 is just plain funky. If I make these models into kits, there will be 2 more choices available to Zed's as they like to be called.

    The side effect of offering Z Scale models is, you only sell 20 of these and 20 of those, so you have to keep your costs down. I do that by making stuff that I want for myself, and offering some for sale. [​IMG] After all, it's a hobby!

    -Robert
     
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    Oh, by the way, that's my N Scale layout just used to photo the models on. I photo my HO models on it also! :D
     
  10. BoxcabE50

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    Robert-

    Just curious- Are you also making your own decals? I have doubts that there is a large selection commercially available?

    :D

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  11. rray

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    Yes, I do my own decals, and artwork. Corel and Alps. I put decals in the kits to match.
     
  12. shamoo737

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    Robert, did you ever offer the Diamond centerbeam as a kit? They look great.



     
  13. rray

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    No, I never did do the Diamond Window version. As far as I can tell, that is the first Centerbeam car produced, and the Northern Pacific railroad was the only buyers. There were 5 cars made in 1969, a 66' car, that ended up on the Burlington Northern roster.

    Centerbeam cars did not become popular until 1977 when the Opera Window version was released.

    Being an early design, and a 66' long car that gave me trouble derailing on end modules, I did not pursue them.

    My love for lumber product cars did not dye though, as I recently revived the 73' car project, once I figured out how to make extende lenght truck mounted couplers:
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