NYC Some Rare Ones

fitz Nov 9, 2015

  1. fitz

    fitz TrainBoard Member

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    I scanned some more of the Harold Vollrath negs that I purchased. I really did not know about these articulateds that the Central operated. I'll post the photos and then go find out where they were taken.

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    Class NE-2, Builders Photo, Schenectady 1913, Looks like NYC&STL on the tender.

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    Hmm, different wheel arrangement, still Class NE-2, Corning 1916.

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    Class NU-1b, McKees Rocks, PA, March 1937, Pittsburgh and Lake Erie.
     
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  2. bremner

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    Those are really cool locos. I don't think that I have ever seen an 0-8-8-0 before
     
  3. FriscoCharlie

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  4. bremner

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    Me too....I so want a 4-8-8-2, but that is a different railroad
     
  5. fitz

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    These are far from articulated, but two photos of the same loco, and only two years apart, but they sure look different. Consolodated Class G-46h, supposedly built for the CCC&StL by Brooks in 1912. The right side view taken in East St. Louis in August 1938, and the left side view in Indianapolis, September 1940. Looks like she was just shopped. Stack may be different.

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  6. Charlie

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    What is interesting on the artics is that they have slide valves on the low pressure cylinders and piston valves on the high!


    Charlie
     
  7. BoxcabE50

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    Stack does look taller in the left side view. Maybe it needed some smoke box work?
     
  8. fitz

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    Charlie, I am pretty sure I have seen other RR versions that have that combination, too. These Central ones were built in the early 1900s.
     
  9. Charlie

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    Charlie

    It's interesting at any rate!

    Charlie
     
  10. fitz

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    I just can't seem to stop this. Here are some more Consols without the accompanying Vollrath data.

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    Looks like she had an episode with that cylinder cover.

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    I have more.
     
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  11. BoxcabE50

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    Side swipe? Minor derailment?
     
  12. GP30

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    I believe almost all of the NYC articulateds were assigned on the P&LE. With all of the steel traffic on the line at that time, I bet those brutes really came in handy for grabbing a cut of ore hoppers and dragging them into position, or transferring loads of steel slabs to rolling mills across town.

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  13. Charlie

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    I know that sometimes RRs and traction lines posed rolling stock for insurance purposes.

    Charlie
     
  14. Hardcoaler

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    First Shays and now articulateds, the NYC had more to offer than I ever knew. Great pictures!
     
  15. badlandnp

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    Neat pics! The 1164 probably got the stack extension to fix a steaming issue. Sometimes a slightly taller stack would make a huge difference in the ability of the loco to use it's steam.

    Just got to love the compound articulteds!
     
  16. LEW

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    Well after looking at all of the G-46 photos tell me what is different about the 1199 from the other G-46. It is from the valve gear forward . LEW
     
  17. Hytec

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    Thanks to Lew's comment, I note a number of subtle differences when I looked more closely. For instance, there is no step attached to the top forward corner of the steam chest on 1199 that is seen on 1174. Also the steam chest forward cover plate is different between the two locomotives.
     
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  18. fitz

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    Lew, is it that identification plate on the cylinder cover?
     
  19. LEW

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    The 1199 does not have a steam pipe from the boiler to the cylinder . It is cast inside of the cylinder casting as on a G-6 instead of a G-46 .
    LEW
     
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    Check pg. 537 NYC Lines . LEW
     

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