The Greenbrier Logging and Sawmill Co R.R. #5

OleSmokey May 30, 2021

  1. jwaldo

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    As a geologist, that's what we'd call a Neapolitan era sedimentary deposit. The vanilla bed is rather thin in this region, though.
     
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  2. OleSmokey

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    Hehehe yeah.
    I got into it again last night. I am paying for it, My hands are being a pain. I i take a break. Its pretty close to being ready for plaster cloth.I got some work to do yet on the hill between logging camp and the view of the sawmill. I want the camp to be between the too mountains. Will see how this works out. Some shots below. Laters
     

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  3. BigJake

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    I guess you got hungry too...
     
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    Well, this will stop me for the month. Foam is sprayed and waiting for it to dry. It can take a couple of days to dry so you can cut it to shape.I am waiting for plaster so that could be next month. I am going to start working on the yard again while waiting for stuff to get here. Shots for now. Laters
     

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  5. BigJake

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    I must be hungry. That looks like soft-serve ice cream!
     
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  6. mtntrainman

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    :LOL::LOL::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
     
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  7. badlandnp

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    Sooo, would that be the "Ice Cream Candy Mountain???"

    :ROFLMAO::LOL::ROFLMAO::LOL:
     
  8. OleSmokey

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    Not unless its foam candy.:confused::eek:
     
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    Well, I won't be able to do much to the layout for a few days. I had to order more parts of Kato unitrack to finish the yard at the sawmill. Some of the ones i had broke when i was taking it apart. Somewhere out there in never ever mail land is plaster cloth and Hot glue sticks. Now more track pieces so, I have been put on a holding pattern. I am down to cleaning the track around the layout while waiting. Not fun but needed. Thats it for now. Laters
     
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    Well, Finally, i got some mail i can enjoy. The hot glue sticks came in. I got the front part of the logging camp ready for plaster. I need to do a bit more on the back side yet and i can do plaster there too, when it gets here...yeah that... Shots below. Laters
     

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    Well, some of the stuff came in so i can do some of the layout stuff. One thing i am finding out is the connectors for each track are breaking down. I am running into trouble with dead pieces of track. Only solution is to solder the sections together. I found low-temp solder but not the flux for it. Heading to the big box stores to get some. I think i want to get that done before i cover total access to the track. I made "holes" for to be able to get cars and engines out from under the mountains. There not big enough to solder track sections together. I can get to the track yet to do the soldering under mountains. One thing i am curious is, why the engines will shut down right at a feeder. There are two places that the engines,"all" will stop in the same places. That just bugs me to no end. Another thing is i am finding the sections are not level in places and causes trains to uncouple or jump track. Thats another reason to solder. I can solder sections to get smooth connection places. Not sure if the hot glue is building it up even though i hold the track down to keep it from lifting. I want to get this done before finish the mountain and the yard. Thats all for now. laters
     
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    I have found 'hot glue' is NOT a good thing to hold track down. It doesn't 'expand' with temp changes etc.. IT hardened and pulled away from my track in less then a year !! I now use latex caulk. Spread small amounts under the track area and set the track into it. Latex caulk will expand and contract and hold to the track better. JMO
     
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    I just may try that instead of the hot glue. One thing i have found is i am having issues with the connections for each section. I have two turnouts that are coming up short with the rail. I have one that is over a 1/8th inch apart. I get one rail to go tight and the other still has a 1/8th inch gap. Can't see why it does that. The other pieces that are connected are right on. Not sure what is happening. Got to find something to help. I am starting to think Mike might be off on the Kato track. Got to figure it out before i can glue the track down and solder the connections.
     
  14. BigJake

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    So, is the unitrack roadbed meeting up, but the rail(s) are not? Is there another place where the rail meets before the roadbed does?

    I have had the rails slip in the roadbed on shorter unitrack pieces before.

    It's also possible that the wrong size curve was used (maybe not right there, but maybe elsewhere) forcing this piece to be at an angle to (almost) meet up with other track.
     
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    Check this and help me figure out what is going on. By the way, All the other track is perfect in fit. That is why i am having a hard time figuring this out. Pic's below.
     

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  16. BigJake

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    OleSmokey,

    That track arrangement should work, or at least a lot better than it shows (with much narrower rail gaps, if any.) Note it does not work well at all with #6 switches.

    I laid your track arrangement out in X-track-cad, and while it is not perfect, it is much better than what your pics show. Do joints in the upper and lower tracks off to the right line up with each other? Perhaps the problem lies outside of the photographed area. You did use the tapered pieces with those switches, correct?

    However, it looks as if the lower left turnout in the photo is actually rotated further counter-clockwise than it should be, and/or there is excess solder in between the rail ends on lower track and that lower left switch's diverging route. You might de-solder those rail joints, clean them up, and re-assemble. It looks like there has been substantial damage to the roadbed in some places, and the rails may have shifted in the plastic roadbed as a result, which could also cause such problems.

    Failing that, you could shorten the lower right straight track section (or more likely the section to the right of it, so you have a standard section of track to work with, rather than that special, tapered track, which may be hard to replace should you screw up the first try, like I probably would.)

    As I'm sure you know, shortening Unitrack straight sections should be done by cutting a piece out of the middle of the roadbed, sliding the two roadbed ends together, then trim the protruding rail ends to match the roadbed ends. This method keeps the Unijoiner pockets in the roadbed ends intact. You can glue the two roadbed ends together from the bottom side, to help hold it all together if desired. I suggest doing that after the modified track piece has been tested in place.
     
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    Yeah, i did use some of those tapered track in different places. Where i could i used them and as i had "extras I used them as i could to save bucks. I have pulled the turnouts off again and cleaned up the ends so i can use them. If i put them in place and use pressure Hard, i can get them to meet together perfect. i need to figure out why that is so hard to put in place without cramming them together. I am thinking i may have some hot glue in a connector somewhere in those two tracks. The main line is ok all the way over to the other turnout on the main. Its something to do with the second and third track of the yard so i am back to tearing out the yard and try and figure out where i messed up. It all looked pretty good right up to where those two turnouts meet. Anyway i will let you know what happens.
     
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    Yeah, I would check the unijoiner pockets in the unitrack's road-bed. Anything in there could prevent the two sections from mating up tight.
     
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    Yep, I did find some that had that. I got it most of the way done. Solder and glue down of the track and turnouts is next. I completely tore the yard out and cleaned every piece of track and took the glue from hot glue off the foam as well. Only thing that slowed me down was hot wire leads and turnout remote wiring. I had to make a "trench" for the wires in the foam. I had made some but when i redid the track it needed to be redone. I have the track pinned down. Its ready for the next stage. Next...
     
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    I have all the track pieces for to fit the siding at the sawmill. Everything is perfect but for one of the sidings. I have less than 32" of space between the track in a couple of places. It looks good and the way it should. The other side is fixed as well. Looks to me like solder and finished. I am going to solder the track and then glue it down. Will have to clean the track real good because of the flux used to solder the silver solder is silver, no core flux. I have been told that its the best for this kind of work. Shots below.
     

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