The Ships That Ate My Dining Room

Pete Nolan Jan 1, 2016

  1. Pete Nolan

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    I started on the deck piping for the Ti Oceania last week. The arrangement of the piping is generally hard to see from photographs, so I asked an expert, and came up with this approximation. There are many more smaller pipes to be added.

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    A verse from an Allan Sherman song.....??
    The ballad of "Oh Boy".



    Only because that was just about my first, non explicit thought!
    Not exactly train related, but somehow, I can see this being fit in somehow!
    Maybe, instead of "Monday night singing with Mitch", he could have put "A 48 inch oil ship"? Oh Boy!

    That thing is HUGE!! But it looks fantastic also. Very nicely done!!
    What kind of measurements are we looking at?? A WAG(Wild Guess)
    on my parts says at least 48" in length?!?

    Starting to envision a couple of 4' N Track modules, with a wharf scene.
    Featuring at least one of these as the main attraction, front and center, with
    mains passing behind the scene!

    Can't wait to see the finished vessel.
     
  3. mtntrainman

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    That's a thing of beauty Pete...(y)

    BUT.....
     
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  4. Pete Nolan

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    It's seven feet nine inches long. It is the current largest ship operating, aside from the freak oil rig demolition ship that is actually two ships joined together.
     
  5. BALOU LINE

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    So that's almost a quarter of a mile long? That's like a drag strip with burnout box and not enough room to stop at the end :confused:
     
  6. John Moore

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    In my small layout designs this would not only take up the entire harbor area but pretty much about half the entire layout.
     
  7. traingeekboy

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    It's truly impressive Pete. I'm sure we've all seen so many ship models that were selectively compressed for a ship yard scene and ended up being about 9 inches long. Maybe I missed this in the previous discussion. Are you just focusing on your ship models now, or do you plan to build a layout for them?

    oops, scrolled back, I saw you posted they are museum models.

    Always a pleasure to see you creating models.
     
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    Latest progress:

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    Still a lot of vents and man ports to add.
     
  9. Arctic Train

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    Beautiful stuff Pete. Just wondering, does the museum give you a budget to work with or is it "carte blanche" for your creations? If i'm not mistaken I see a lot of feet of Gold Medal Models catwalk and railings there. With just that detail alone I see the dollar signs adding up quickly.

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  10. Pete Nolan

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    Definitely a budget, which is drawn up in partnership. It is time rather than materials that really sets the budget.

    The brass is all drawn up and commissioned by me, so it is less expensive than buying retail. The catwalks and pipe supports for the two ships were almost $600. The catwalks took up five sq. ft. of brass; the supports 7 sq. ft. The Plastruct piping for the two was nearly $500. That $1000 was in the budget, although it was a bit higher than anticipated. Contingency funds are an essential part of business, and these ship will slurp up a good part of them. 3D parts can get expensive. I have two folks who will develop things for me. Besides the Shapeways cost, I try to give them some dollars for their design time.

    I keep wishing I started this earlier in life--but then I realize that the technologies I use have come together in just the past few years.
     
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    Museum projects are never finished; they are declared done, and the maker is separated from the ship. That's how I feel. I'm making new lifeboats for this, but then it's done. It's all matte white: colors, emblems, people, and activities will be projected on it by 3D projectors. I didn't know this until very late in the project, so took extraordinary care to avoid glue spots and finger smudges--which cover nicely with matte paint!

    A masked version, with the mask still needing some trimming. I can cut in a ocean around her, instead of my poor dust-filled dining room.
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    Oops, still have to connected the main pipes with the two smaller pipes running around the main house.
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    Oops, still have to make nozzles for the manifolds, although they can probably by projected on. The starboard side will be connected to an offloading terminal.
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    These huge ships have huge winches and windlasses, lots of man ports and vents, but very few deck fittings compared to smaller ships. That's easy to understand: they can call on very few ports, so everything is tailored to where they can anchor.

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    Unless someone models the Knock Nevis, which was longer and, I think, had a little more capacity, this is probably going to hold the record for largest N scale ship ever built. If you can get to the high-res versions, try them: the detail is outstanding.

    What do you mean, it has to be shipped? This has been a fun project that I never would have done without a buyer. The Mozah LNG tanker is next up.
     
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  12. mtntrainman

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    Most Excellent Pete ^5 (y)(y)(y)(y)(y)
     
  13. TwinDad

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    Simply outstanding work, Pete!

    I'm curious about the 3D projection technique, though... do you have any pictures, or maybe a web link/reference with more detail on how that is done and how it looks?
     
  14. Pete Nolan

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    Well, there's TV commercial with a young women whose business is creating 3D effects, with a dragon belching fire just over her head, and there's Jurrassic Park, which was early--I don't know much about it. I know they place the model in its spot and take one or many ultra-high resolution scans, and then the computers take over. Paul Bernhard does spectacular work, so this should be something to see.
     
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    I'm wondering, once it's done, how do you plan on transporting it? And how far does it have to go?
     
  16. Pete Nolan

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    It and the similar size Mozah LNG tanker have to go about 1300 miles to Houston. We will rent a cargo van one way and fly back.
     

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