Turnouts w/ Conrete Ties - Endless Search

KCCRail Dec 2, 2013

  1. KCCRail

    KCCRail New Member

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    Hello all - I have spent the better part of 18 months doing a 3 level design. My prototype (Wiener Linien/OBB - Vienna, Austria and surroundings) runs complete concrete ties, including under their turnouts. I plan to use Micro Engineering flex track - Code 83, however my quest these last couple of weeks as I build my order is finding turnouts with Concrete ties...it seems to be a lost cause - at least in code 83. I have found a very few in Code 75 out of the UK, but nothing else. I have searched US web sites as well as many of those in Europe that I am familiar with, including various manufacturers.

    I could hand-build my Turnouts (#10's on the Main Lines, #8s elsewhere), but I was really hoping to avoid that level of time commitment as I am looking at over 800 ft of track and in the vicinity of 40 turnouts. About half of that I could live with wood ties, but I was really hoping that someone might have an idea or where I could find turnouts w/ concrete ties. I have searched until my fingers and keyboard are done in so any input will be read with interest.

    Appreciate the insight and input. Chris
     
  2. Ironhorseman

    Ironhorseman Staff Member In Memoriam

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    Can't help you with that one Chris. Good luck with it.
     
  3. Kenneth L. Anthony

    Kenneth L. Anthony TrainBoard Member

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    I started to say I knew of prototype stretches of track with concrete ties but wood ties under turnouts-- but then you mentioned Vienna, Austria which I am not familiar with since 1972.
     
  4. MarkInLA

    MarkInLA Permanently dispatched

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    Yeah, the scenes in and around Los Angeles from bridges shows all switches remain wooden ties. I don't think RRs are that far, if at all into concrete ties yet , so you can look at your situation this way as being realistic..
     
  5. Metro Red Line

    Metro Red Line TrainBoard Member

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    Concrete-tie turnouts exist, mostly in high-speed rail operations, but are still not yet that commonplace. They're not common enough for a company to make scale model versions of. Unless you're modeling a high-speed rail line, I don't think it's a necessity at all. If you think the look bothers you, then paint the wooden turnout ties a light grey color so they can blend in with your concrete-tie flextrack.
     
  6. FLG

    FLG TrainBoard Member

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    you might need to buy "wooden" ones then file/sand, paint, and weather to match your other track. Just an idea.
     
  7. KCCRail

    KCCRail New Member

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    Thanks for your insights and suggestions - I will be working with the wooden versions - having taken a rount trip this weekend from Vienna to Budapest I can attest that only a few of the prototype turnouts here in Austria & Hungary have given way to concrete, so wood isn't dead yet over here. Chris
     
  8. MarkInLA

    MarkInLA Permanently dispatched

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    That's what we were saying: The 1:1 doesn't have many either. The suggestion above about making wood look like concrete would still be unconvincing as the way the concrete ties have that distinctive dip below the rail. There's a kind of concave appearance and perfectly symmetry that's different than wood ties + the clips they use instead of spikes, adds to the mix...And all of this under complex switches to boot...Stay with wood under your switches and fuggeddabouddit !
     

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