Spidge, All our opinions were given in the spirit of helping our neighbors. This is much better. Looks much better! But, wait, you aren't quite finished. How about the plants, and bushes that have died over the years? Did someone pick them up? No. You just haven't added the final layer. Twigs, sticks, branches, rotting logs, dead trees. Remember we are talking 10 inches of rain a year in this scene. Stuff dies. You have to make sure that this great scene is not a park, but the 'real' outdoors. Finished it up. Cheers, Jim CCRR/Socalz44 PS I'm giving a scenery clinic at an NMRA San Diego meeting on Aug. 8th, Desert Scenery, come on down.