Working on the Railway - Sydney style

Sten Nov 3, 2005

  1. Les

    Les TrainBoard Member

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    NR 33 the city of Grafton was in the wreck in western Vic where the grain truck ran into the side of it First the photo from the paper .I nave heard they are going to rebuild it

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    There was three locos NR33 is some where in the pile of 44 wagons along with a truck and a driver that hasn't been found that I know of .
    Regards Les
     
  2. David Bromage

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    The body of the truck driver was found nearly a week after the crash.

    The total cost of the accident is around $30 million.

    Cheers
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  3. SRT-FAN

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    Did NR collar the owner for damages and/or criminal charges? :eek:mg:

    Speaking of australian rolling stocks; SRT bought some stainless steel commuter car from QR for commuter ops several years ago. Can you find pictures of them when they were in Australia.
     
  4. traingeekboy

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    Sten,
    Thanks for the photos. Very nice stuff you guys have over on your side of the dirtball.

    Aussie train board members,
    Do any of you guys have non american proto layouts stashed away somewhere? I'd be curious to see some pics of them. I've been perusing ebay for euro trains and I find alot of listings for what seems to be Australian proto stuff made by Lima and some of the other European manufacturers. Is hornby going to rerelease some of those car models to the australian market with the buy out?
     
  5. Les

    Les TrainBoard Member

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    Geeky Lima some time in the 70's and later made 42class bulldogs, 44class as per Indian pacific with later repaints and Indian pacific coaches with some repaints of loco's for other Oz states that used similar equipment They later came out with 422 class in different paint schemes along with some 4 wheel and bogie wagons They were sold individually and in sets.
    Hornby done some too the VR Bclass and a foobie 40class NSW diesel, a dock class shunter foobie
    Heres a pic of my friend Phils Layout with a 42/421class on the right, 422 class in mid and a 40class too the left of it and a 45class on the far left
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    This is an AD60 Garrett 4-8-4 4-8-4

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    This is Mayfield commuter stn I snapped at Brisbane show

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    This is Grafton also at Bris show

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    Regards Les
     
  6. traingeekboy

    traingeekboy TrainBoard Member

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    Nice shots. I see alot of the Lima stuff on ebay quite often. I never really knew what to make of it as I had not seen many proto Australian pics. seeing stens pics put it in perspective a bit. That garret is awesome.

    What brands of catenary do you guys use?
     
  7. GTRail

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    They were built last year. There is also a N scale model of these coming out later on this year from a business called L&S Hobbies Australia. I have heard they also have plans to do HO scale versions of them after the N scale run.

    Regards
     
  8. Alan

    Alan Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Thanks GTR. With all the great looking Aussie locomotives around, it beats me why more Aussies don't model their own railways :confused:
     
  9. Gats

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    Why model something that attempts to run you over every day? :confused:

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  10. Les

    Les TrainBoard Member

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    I don't model Aussie gear because of models that have poor runing qualities, poor pulling power and basicly being ripped off.You have to spend the equivalent of a US loco just to posess a body then you have to buy a mechanisam the cost of another US loco and it still has to be assembled and painted and decaled but still dont run like a Kato or P2K or such. I have to admit the latest built equipment is quite nice and runs excellent but I have now invested a lot of money and time with what I have of C&NW and I wouldn't like to be starting out again Plus I am modeling something I cant just drive down the road and see.I started out with a freelance road using C&NW paint scheme as a base hence WEUSANDCORR way back in 1976 and it still is active today .
    I then decided to keep some of the C&NW loco's to interchange with, which has now become the main focus and the WEUSANDCORR has become a supplier to C&NW
    I have to research and scrounge info on the C&NW and it has been quite an enjoyable trip but I am still proto freelancing I suppose.
    Regards Les
     
  11. Sten

    Sten TrainBoard Member

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    quite simply, and expressed in so many ways,
    there are a few of us who work for the railways on this group and you want to keep that 6 degrees of separation or your hobby becomes your work and then it isn't a hobby.
    other common reasons
    quality of local stuff when first made decision to join hobby.
    diversification of what is out there, before the open access agreement, everything was blue (for NSW) or brown (indian red for rivet counters) BORING!!!!!!!! we only run unit trains, our intermodal trains only have one level and is containers only, and the end is too close to the front (good if your in HO, not so interesting if in N scale).
    I became interested in the C&NW because they ran left handed (same as here) and I was going to freelance a NSW/C&NW operation, but at the time it was impossible to buy decent NSW equipment so C&NW took over and then the US took over and I'm where I am today.
     
  12. Alan

    Alan Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Ok, I accept the seperation of work and hobby, also the cost/quality issues. :)

    Just seems a pity that better, cheaper models of Aussie prototypes are not widely available.
     
  13. Gats

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    Tha availability is better than it has ever been, Alan... in HO. Decently modelled and detailed off the shelf and running too, from what I understand.

    But there is some inroad into N by a couple of people but it's still in it's infancy. The likes of Ross Baulderson and Phil Badger help to bring Australian N to the forefront with thier exquisite modelling but it's a hard slog for the few who are doing the same as Ross and Phil for a very small audience. It's still a cottage industry in some respects.

    Too few, poor running, models in the past have wrought some damage, IMO. :(
     
  14. Les

    Les TrainBoard Member

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    Gary you can say that again .
    Alex I was attracted to the C&NW for the same sort of reason except I was going to swap the US equipment and the NSW equipment over and run both.then the WEUSANDCORR was invented and the freelance op was up and running C&NW colours with my heralds.The more I research the C&NW the more I liked what I saw so now its dominant and the freelance interchanges with it
    Regards Les
     
  15. chndrsn

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    Alan,

    As an Australian rekindling my interest in the hobby after a 30 odd year absence I do agree with you. It is a pity that a greater percentage of those in the hobby in Australia aren't modelling their own, in a similar ratio to your own, the US or European model railway/road community.

    But I certainly agree with Gary, the HO market is starting to be very well served, the detail on current product is superb in comparison to my childhood. It's just a pity that in such a small market the rivet counters howl down the entry level repaints marketed by "Powerline" or the past Lima efforts, they often forget that it was (undoubtebly) those companies and their product that sparked their interest, gave them the impetus to be where they are today and creates their future market. The other problem is that they all seem to be protyping similar era's and loco's!

    The other issue is that most locomotives and rolling stock is not familar to the average Australian, I can drive from Brisbane to Melbourne, via Sydney on the freeways without generally seeing a freight train. The most I see is a suburban set (rarely), so the familiarity and therefore the interest of those who grew up with inner city freight terminals is not there. For example the 90 class I think you referred to previously, operates only in the Hunter Valley, NSW coal service, having an axle load that is too heavy for anywhere else in the NSW system. No prototype familiarity - No future enthusiast.

    Personally, I would much prefer to model in N scale because I don't have the baggage of a pile of HO or OO in the cupboard and it seems so practical, but it has been pointed out to me by a few in the industry that the market isn't huge, numbering in the low hundreds for the enthusiasts, making it impractical for polystyrene RTR product. So in my case, unfortunately I will probably model US N scale, because I can buy three RTR loco's for the cost of one RTR resin Australian (which uses the common US mechanism anyway).

    So whatever the scale we have the problem, without cheap RTR sets you don't create the future enthusiasts, so everyone stays with the products they started with as kids or young parents (c'mon we all know the set was for yourself not your son or daughter!)

    But the bright spot would have to be the Auran Trainz computer game/program, given its very strong Australian content (being made here in Qld), there must be spin offs into the modelling market.

    cheers,
    Chris
     
  16. Sten

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    let's add some more pics
    Central (Sydney Terminal) celebrated it's 100th B'day today so snapped some pics while I hobo'd onto one of the tour trains
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  17. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Do you have another photo of that green steamer?

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  18. Sten

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    I do but not on me right now, so I'll post them up at the next convenience. both the green and the grey locos are C38 Pacific class locomotives (4-6-2 wheel arrangement) the grey one is the streamlined version of which there were 5 (Nos 3801 - 3805) and is based on the New Haven I5. the green one is one of the non streamlined versions of which there were (from memory) 25 (3806 - 3830).
     
  19. Colonel

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    I just arrived home after a two day trip in Rockhapmton which is in Central Queensland. While I was on site I took the opportunity to take some pics for my trainboard friends.

    1. Pacific National Intermodal heading South.

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    2. Consist of the PN train.

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    3. Queensland Rail locomotive with a very short load.

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  20. Colonel

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    4. The main Northern line is used to ship coal South to Gladstone the next shots are from two trains both with mid train helpers, One train being diesel and the other electric.

    The first two shots are from the diesel locomotives

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    Maybe one of the Aussie contingents can explain the type of locos they are.
     

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