Nm-adventure: Harz-based narrow gauge (freelance)

Steffen B Aug 30, 2022

  1. CNE1899

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    Steffen,
    Good to hear from you again, and nice work!(y)
    I like your locomotive cradle as well.

    Scott
     
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    Hi all,

    I was looking a while for a 2nd narrow gauge Harz-based steam locomotive to model in Nm-scale.
    After the experiences with the fragile shell of loco 99 7238 this time it should be a conversion from commercially available models.
    And yes, I tink I found a way...

    Did you ever heard of a company called "SHE Sudharz-Eisenbahn" = South-Harz Railroad? It was one of three companies forming the big metre-gauge-network in Harz mountains of Germany. It's main line ran from Walkenried to Braunlage with a branch to Tanne, connecting with NWE company at Sorge (today the well-known HSB). Tanne was the terminus of a standard gauge line from Blankenburg too. This line was the worldwide first application of the Roman Abt rack system. A lot of history there...
    https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schmalspurbahn_Walkenried–Braunlage/Tanne#/media/Datei:Karte_Südharz-Eisenbahn-Gesellschaft.jpg

    Back to SHE. The company bought two bigger Mallet-type engines 0-4-0 + 0-4-2T in the 1920s, but they proved to be too heavy for the track and prone for derailments.
    https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHE_56_und_57#/media/Datei:SHE_56_Mallet_Werkfoto_Henschel.png

    They were sent back to builder Henschel for modifications and left the factory with a completely new chassis.
    Now as a 0-10-0T the special feature was the Lutter-Moeller drive mechanism. Here is a brief description:
    http://www.douglas-self.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/luttermoller/luttermoller.htm

    This configuration meets the needs of SHE line operating the engines until near abandonment 1962.
    SHE_57_Luttermoller

    I grew up in the GDR, but in a HSB-book were some short informations about these things only 5 km behind the iron curtain. So these locomotives were always my secret love. They were the other Harz elephants besides the well known 2-10-2Ts of HSB.
    Searching for possibilities I found that a Märklin Z scale chassis together with a Fleischmann BR 81 N scale shell meets the dimensions pretty good:
    SHE #57 Maßvergleich.JPG

    Via Paint I developed a primitve view of what it could be, and I was surprised :):
    SHE #57 Maßvergleich_2.JPG

    With a lot of cutting, scratching and filing I don’t know if it will work out, but I try my best.
    It will be no a high detailed model, rather than a nearing. So the overall look is most important.

    I started with cylinders. It is the same work as on my 99.72. I glued modificated Fleischmann BR 81 cylinders as a "hat" on the remainings of Märklin-cylinders.
    Here is the original Fleischmann cylinder assembly with the right cylinder already reworked:
    20231209_192527_kl.jpg

    With gear driven first and last wheelsets I removed the rods there. I have to rework the wheels by adding spokes and removing counter weights:
    20231209_221302_kl.jpg

    So far by now. It is a nice Christmas project.
     
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    Interesting!
     
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    Steffen,
    Very interesting! Will be following.:cool::D

    Scott
     
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    Some steps further on.
    Today I assembled the chassis with reworked wheels (not finished yet) and mounted cylinders.
    I did some filing on the shell to remove surplus deatils on smokebox like old number plate, footsteps and piping.
    So I think it's the right direction:
    SHE#57 Nm 20231214_144105.jpg

    SHE #57 Nm 20231214_144110.jpg
    Next step is to cut the shell for narrowing the side tanks and to transform boiler and cab.
     
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    Couldn't resist to make a new draft. Good for motivation :D(y)

    SHE #57 Nm 20231214_144110_angepasst - kl.jpg
     
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    The shell fell apart :eek:
    SHE #57 Nm 20231214_203306_resized.jpg
    I scratched off all of the original boiler piping, have to make fill-in's for some surplus holes and to get a smooth surface.
    SHE #57 Nm 20231214_212423_resized_1.jpg

    Seems the cab conversion is quite a difficult task. It turned out that the upper cab half is to make completely new from scratch.
    I am just thinking about materials, more to come later.
     
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    Steffen,
    I've had that happen. I use super glue or JB Weld. What do you use? I know you have different brands in Europe.
    If you use an epoxy, make sure it is the 24 hour version, you have to wait for drying, but it's stronger.
    I also try to use small screws where possible.


    Scott
     
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    I hate it when stuff falls apart.
     
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    Hi all, happy new year 2024 and all the best for you.

    Sorry for the late response and a misleading emoji. It is all ok, I had to cut the shell in that way to separate the tanks from boiler.
    It was just funny to see the "after-cut-picture" with all the parts...

    Meantime the loco got its reworked wheels. I found it impossible to remove counterweights on original wheels because material is very tough.
    But there was another way to get the right look. I made some PC-prints of new paper disks with right dimensions and punched them out. It took some attempts to get the right concentricity:
    20231231_151649.jpg

    That's the result after glueing the parts. Middle wheelsets with new coungterweights too. Now it is a Luttermoller engine:
    20231231_153529.jpg
     
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    Steffen,
    Nice solution to the problem!(y)
    Looking good!
    One way I have punched out circles is to sharpen the end of brass tubing.
    I put a cone shaped Dremel cutting tool in a vice vertically, then put a brass tube in a drill press, and lower the tube onto the cutting tool.
    Makes a nice punch any size.

    Scott
     
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    Good idea, Scott. I have a lathe, so I simply reworked an existing punch.
     
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