Advertising mistakes

Kevin M Jul 27, 2007

  1. Kevin M

    Kevin M TrainBoard Member

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    I find it funny when Model RR companies make such simmple mistakes with there advertising pictures, things like wheel's off the track and background items tipped over. Well I noticed a new on the Kato add on the back page of the september MR, did anyone else see it?
    Kevin
     
  2. wcfn100

    wcfn100 TrainBoard Member

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    I don't see what you're talking about, but after looking at the ad I did notice the terrible parting lines on the nose of the SP F3. Are all the new shells like this?

    Jason
     
  3. Ilovesd90macs

    Ilovesd90macs TrainBoard Member

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    Front truck on the CP AC4400? Yup, saw it right away. What is this months Kato ad anyways? Haven't seen it, and the website is way behind for ads.

    Athearn has a derailed wheel shot at least once a month. Maybe they should hire me to spot them. Every thing I spot derailed I get! :teeth:
     
  4. Kevin M

    Kevin M TrainBoard Member

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    It is the SD70MAC's I am looking at, the BNSF MAC has qyite a rake to it.
    Kevin
     
  5. Ottergoose

    Ottergoose TrainBoard Member

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    I remember spotting problems in the Lionel Catalogs (late 80's / early 90's) when I was younger - the main problems I remember were due to bad cropping - you could see the end of the tubular track at the edge of the photos. Not bad for a first grader :)
     
  6. Tim Loutzenhiser

    Tim Loutzenhiser TrainBoard Supporter

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    I'm looking at the September 2007 MR right now - back cover is an MRC add...
    The "inside" of the back cover has a Kato add - but I don't see a CP AC4400 that Josh mentioned...

    OK - I give up - what is wrong? Inquiring minds want to know...
     
  7. up1950s

    up1950s TrainBoard Supporter

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    How many times have we seen a cab forward with the tender on the wrong end .
     
  8. Kevin M

    Kevin M TrainBoard Member

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    Im sorry, it is the inside back cover page. THe BNSF SD70MAC in the lower left corner, the shell is not seated all of the way on the rear end of the frame. Not as easy to see as some mistakes but I caught it.
    Kevin
     
  9. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    I've always wondered why the photographer misses these. Are they rushing too much? Unfamiliar with the products? Probably they don't hurt sales. But still looks bad.

    :eek:mg:

    Boxcab E50
     
  10. up1950s

    up1950s TrainBoard Supporter

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    To be fair , I have taken shots to post , only to find out that they are not only butt ugly but have a wheel on the ground and I wasn't in a particular rush either . Photos are usually larger that the camera's display we look at , and in many cases the camera is lower than our eye level and we don't stoop low enough to see the detail , just the centering of the object . If one is taking a bunch of shots , the error shows up after we have dismantled the shoot set up , put away the camera , and the locos . Could even be days later , by somebody else thats cropping the shots to fit the page . People make a command decision on the effort , time , and money to re shoot , or not depending on how much that erred shot is liable to negatively affect the viewers opinion of the object . Good enough often rules the day .
     
  11. Pete Nolan

    Pete Nolan TrainBoard Supporter

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    I've done it so many times I'm embarrassed. Here's what happens to me most of the time.

    I get the train on the track, for sure. Then I start messing with things: lights, any dust or scenery that's fallen into the scene, adjusting the location of the subject just a tiny bit, adjusting the lighting again . . .

    It's real easy to knock something off.

    That's why, when I'm home, I use the computer to check things out before breaking down a shot.
     
  12. Ilovesd90macs

    Ilovesd90macs TrainBoard Member

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    The announcement on the front page of Kato's website is what I was referring to about the AC4400. the Pictures is available to be viewed here.
    http://www.katousa.com/N/AC4400CW/CP.jpg

    Also some weird thing in front of the loco in the picture too.
     
  13. dstuard

    dstuard TrainBoard Member

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    If they had decent lighting, they would have noticed the truck on the ground.

    Perhaps they did notice and the thing in front of the loco is a re-railer! :D
     
  14. up1950s

    up1950s TrainBoard Supporter

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    Maybe its so out of gauge it won't fit on the track .

    The horse is dead , kaput , it is no more , more glue than horse .
     
  15. Doug A.

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    While not a mistake in the sense of a derailed truck or typo, I think Athearn made a HUGE mistake, literally, by showing their ex-MDC steam locomotives at about 4X magnification in their ads. I'm sure the models look pretty good in person, but blown up the details look horrible and the paint looks globbed on.

    I remember seeing these ads for the first time and being more than a little embarrassed for them.
     
  16. steamghost

    steamghost TrainBoard Member

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    Yeah, it's okay to feel guilty about your own foobies, but a photographer and art director got PAID to do this for more money than you could imagine if you haven't had to pay for such things. I doubt this was done by Leon and his Kodak Brownie. If it was Kato Japan staff people, Kato should know better than to hire relatives IMO.

    I've never heard of photographers and art directors ever giving the money back when they screwed up, unless it was ordered by a judge in a lawsuit. I've had the displeasure of working with arrogant types who insisted on not following instructions in the name of "Art". The Big Boss supposedly gave them carte blanche and then blew up when he saw the printed result for the featured item in an auction catalog, an object worth $40,000. It did not sell. Hilarious.

    Richie's joke is pretty much right-on; when something's wrong in the photo, buyers get scared away. Just the opposite if the MSRP was misprinted as $9 or something.
     
  17. Gats

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    In this day of digital imaging there really isn't an excuse except for poor workmanship. That's on behalf of the person setting up and photographing, and the person QA'ing the images. Call it lack of attention to detail.

    Even in the days prior to digital and after the advent of the Polaroid, professional photographers would compose their shot and take it with the Polaroid. Then they would examine the photo under magnification for a time to note any discrepancies and overall for composure, reset, then commit to medium or large format film. Digital allows the same but quicker.
     
  18. Tim Loutzenhiser

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    Oh - OK - I see what you're talking about! I got out my lighted magnifier (which I have to depend on more and more). Maybe I'm who they are counting on viewing the ad - I didn't see it without some help. And I need to get in and get my eyes checked...
    Yep - I've done it too - set up a picture and later because of the sheer brutality of close up photography you see the stuff like wheels off the track, or a hair across the nose of the engine.
     
  19. Curn

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    Yay post 100! thats about 25 per year.

    Anyways, there was a post on the z scale forum a while back that had this tidbit in it.

    "I remember reading somewhere about a Kalmbach staffer who would always derail one axle on all the model photos he made."

    I wonder if there is any truth to it.

    Source:
    http://www.trainboard.com/grapevine/showthread.php?t=85685
     
  20. Stourbridge Lion

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    CONGRADS!!!!!!!

    :thumbs_up: :thumbs_up: :thumbs_up: :thumbs_up:
     

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