ATSF AT&SF/GC&SF in Central Texas

Matthew Roberts Dec 21, 2005

  1. Matthew Roberts

    Matthew Roberts TrainBoard Member

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    Anyone out there have information about the GC&SF (AT&SF) in Central Texas from the early 1900's to 1970's? (Such as industries, RR structures, engines used [especially during 1950s-1970s].)
     
  2. r_i_straw

    r_i_straw Mostly N Scale Staff Member

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    There are a couple of books out there like Steve Goen's "Santa Fe in the Lone Star State" and Lloyed E. Stagner's "Santa Fe In Color Vol. 4 Texas-El Capitan" that have lots of good photos showing tracks side stuff. Stagner has a locomotive roster for 1950 showing the engines assigned to Oklahoma and Texas both steam and diesel.
     
  3. Kenneth L. Anthony

    Kenneth L. Anthony TrainBoard Member

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    I model Santa Fe in the Piney Woods of East Texas and on the Gulf Coast in the middle 1950s.
    Lots of material around but not specifically "central Texas in 1950-1970" period.
    Any particular line you are thinking of? Temple to Cleburne? Temple northwest toward Lubbock? South of Temple?

    I have a town-by-town computer file of about 1800 towns on the Santa Fe with prototype photos, depot and structure plans, track layouts etc. but it would take quite a while to pull up all of central Texas so it would help if you are a little more specific.

    See my East Texas layout, and my plans and proto pix for a Galveston layout at www.railimages.com/gallery/kennethanthony
     
  4. Matthew Roberts

    Matthew Roberts TrainBoard Member

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    Kenneth, I was thinking about the strech between Temple and Brownwood (also including Belton, Lampasas, Lometa, Goldwaithe, and Ricker).
     
  5. Kenneth L. Anthony

    Kenneth L. Anthony TrainBoard Member

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    Some items in my collection that may bear on ATSF central Texas 1950-70

    "Car Location Identity Codes" (prototype books)
    Conroe District, Rev.Nov.1 1983
    Matagorda/ Garwood/ Hall Subdivisions date unknown
    Pearland and Houston Subdivision date unknown
    Silsbee & Evadale date unknown
    Third Subdivision (Sealy-Galveston) date unknown


    Coach, Cabbage and Caboose : Santa Fe Mixed Train Service John B. McCall. 1979, Kachina Press, Dallas, Texas. 256 p.
    Complete coverage of mixed train service with timetables of runs, narrative history and rosters, photos and scale drawings of nearly all coach-baggage combines on the Santa Fe. Includes a year-by-year list of what train numbers ran on what routes from 1901 to 1967, the end of mixed service. Some mixed train service on Matagorda District south of Sealy, Texas. Some on former Orient line, and some out of Lubbock.


    Quarter Century of Santa Fe Consists, Fred W. Frailey. 1974, RPC Publications, Godfrey, Ill. 208p.
    The quarter century is the one from the end of World War Two to the beginning of Amtrak. Organized by trains, this book gives the consist- each car in the train from the front to the markers, the type of cars and the number series of cars usually assigned. If a certain car did not go the entire route of the train, the points where it was switched on or off are given, and connecting trains which carried them. The section on each train goes through
    all the major changes made through the years in the trains consist and operation. Using this book, you can reconstruct what the regular makeup of any passenger train looked like, as it passed any specific point on the Santa Fe, in any given year or season during the period covered. Or you can trace how a New Orleans-
    Oakland through sleeper was carried on a Missouri Pacific train from New Orleans to Houston, switched to the California Special
    at Houston and carried to Clovis, New Mexico and there switched to the San Francisco Chief.
    This is not specifically an equipment book but it has around a hundred photographs and/or floor plans of interesting passenger cars to illustrate how a car fit into a particular service.
    The book also includes a set of Santa Fe condensed system timetables for major passenger trains, at two or three year intervals covering the quarter century. And it includes a roster by type and car number of all the passenger cars used during the period covered.
    For Central Texas, it includes extensive coverage of the TEXAS CHIEF, the CALIFORNIA SPECIAL/TEXAN, the RANGER and the ANGELO.

    Route of the Warbonnets Joe McMillan. 1977, publ. Joe McMillan 176 p.
    Black and white actions photos arranged by location following the Santa Fe system end to end, Dearborn Station to Richmond.
    It has a dozen or so pages dealing with central Texas.

    Stock Cars of the Santa Fe Railway, Frank M. Ellington, John Berry, and Loren Martens. Originally published by Railroad Car Press. 1986 second printing by Santa Fe Railway Historical Society, Inc. Los Angeles, Cal. 134p.
    Class by class survey of Santa Fe stockcars, narrative history,
    scale drawings, photographs, stock operations. Photos, scale
    drawings and narrative of SF stockyards and stock chutes, plus
    station-by-station listing of all stock handling facilities on
    the Santa Fe system with the carload capacity of each stockyard,
    from Santa Fe "List of Officers, Agents, Stations, 1961".
     
  6. friscobob

    friscobob Staff Member

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    Sounds like the general area David Barrow modeled when he first started his Cat Mountain & Santa Fe layouts. Wonder if researching old articles on his layout would help, as perhaps the Santa Fe Historical Society.....
     

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