The new BNSF liveries have prompted heated comments in various places. What do you all think of them. Personally, I think they are great, I especially like the Heritage II, although I was doubtful at first, but it sort of grew on me!
Personally, I HATE the H2!! Heritage I is okay with me, the warbonnet looks even better, but all that orange and yellow on the H2 is just too gaudy. H2 looks like some kids idea of a halloween painting.
I was expecting that!! HII might grow on you too - eventually I will really miss the warbonnet schemes, both the red/silver and the blue/yellow, they have been my favourite liveries for ages, but I guess we have to move on. BNSF is in effect a new business, and they need a new house style. We can always regret the passing of existing things, but we can also look forward to the new ones. During the change over period, we have a lot of variety at least.
Every "new" paint job they've brought out has turned my stomach, but then, I grew to love them. I was upset that my favorite Railway (SF) was merging with my second favorite Railway (BN). But then the logic of it all hit me and I moved on to real bliss! I love the BNSF! Galesburg, IL. is Meca to me and I also like to railfan along Ancona and Hoolihan Curves, Eldelstein Hill, and Cameron Jct., IL. Fort Madison and Burlington, IA. are also favorite spots to visit. "Big Muddies" in Burlington is a great place to eat. You can watch the trains cross the Mississippi from their River-side dinning area. ------------------ MAX-RAILROADER
well i dont know if im the only one but im more upset about loseing BN cascade green than the SF war bonnet, but people say im strange....
I like the heritage 1 & 2, 2-better, I love the red and silver war bonnet, except on an SD60M www.tunnel13.com ------------------ espee2
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by StickyMonk: well i dont know if im the only one but im more upset about loseing BN cascade green than the SF war bonnet, but people say im strange.... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I grew up and currently live in the Twin Cites Metro in Minnesota. I grew up watching and modeling the BN (an some modeling with NP & GN equipment). I do miss the BN cascade green. However, here in MN there is still a ton of BN locos in operation. From a modeling perspective, this gives me the excuse to model BN,ATSF and BNSF locos (and of course some GN & NP because I like them and I said I could If the BNSF and CN merger move foreward to create North American Railway, I sure we will see even more mixed and evolved schems. Hey, I now have an exuse to model some CN now as well, he he he.....
According to the last news release I read on both the BNSF and CN/IC official web sites, BNSF remains BNSF and handles all US operations (including IC). CN remains CN and handles all Canadian operations. It's the paper and money side of this merger that will act as one, or so I understand. This opens a lot of possibilties in the area of the US I live in. The old Alton/GM&O Chicago-St.Louis mainline is currently owned by UP. However, UP has down graded this main and runs mostly locals on it. Their reason is stated as "it's a repeat line for us. The old C&EI/Mopac Line gets into Chicago easier. CN/IC owns the GM&O line from Joilet, north into Chicago. Access is very slow into Chicago from that line." Amtrak has gained by this due to less freight traffic to contend with. Here's the neat part, UP is looking for a buyer to take this line off their hands. If CN/IC owns the north access...hummmmm, I wonder who might look at this line into Chicago from St.Louis? It is fast track, double stack clearanced and ready for possible re-double tracking due to "High Speed Rail" development. It's also the shortest route between St.Louis and Chicago. I just don't know who might take a look at it. But back to the paint. Don't look for a Can-Am paint job for this merger anytime soon. ------------------ MAX-RAILROADER [This message has been edited by Maxwell Plant (edited 01 April 2000).]
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Maxwell Plant: According to the last news release I read on both the BNSF and CN/IC official web sites, BNSF remains BNSF and handles all US operations (including IC). CN remains CN and handles all Canadian operations. It's the paper and money side of this merger that will act as one, or so I understand. This opens a lot of possibilties in the area of the US I live in. The old Alton/GM&O Chicago-St.Louis mainline is currently owned by UP. However, UP has down graded this main and runs mostly locals on it. Their reason is stated as "it's a repeat line for us. The old C&EI/Mopac Line gets into Chicago easier. CN/IC owns the GM&O line from Joilet, north into Chicago. Access is very slow into Chicago from that line." Amtrak has gained by this due to less freight traffic to contend with. Here's the neat part, UP is looking for a buyer to take this line off their hands. If CN/IC owns the north access...hummmmm, I wonder who might look at this line into Chicago from St.Louis? It is fast track, double stack clearanced and ready for possible re-double tracking due to "High Speed Rail" development. It's also the shortest route between St.Louis and Chicago. I just don't know who might take a look at it. But back to the paint. Don't look for a Can-Am paint job for this merger anytime soon. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Now I am confused (imagine that!). Will CN and BNSF road equipment run on both lines? (nevermind that I sometimes see CN locos mixed in, so I still have an excuse to model some CN what is the url for the CN? Thanks
as far as i am aware the ns and the other major railroads are fighting the merger. the ns is worried about loosing their business. but the of course when the stock hits $12 a share they should be. but anyway david goode the ceo of the ns put out a memo to all employees explaining that this isnt the time for such a merger and that they plan on fighting it to the surface transportation board. thats all i know for now.....any updates and i'll let ya know.
bnfan99, Go to the BNSF official web-site, www.bnsf.com , Krebs seems to have the support of a few railway unions and other Big Businesses. I'm not real sure this will get pushed through either, but you never know...If it does, I guess you and I will have to go on a CN N-Scale Loco buying spree! ------------------ RAILROADING-TO-THE-MAX! Brent Tidaback
Back to the orignal post... Does anyone have objections to the new lighter shade of orange that is appearing on the H-2 units? Certainly doesn't add to the visability of the yellow lettering on the sides. Does anyone know if this is an "official" change or just a variation by a particular paint shop?
i dont have any objections. personally i like the the old bn black and green,then the cream and green 70 macs,then the pumpkins 1 and 2 scheme. ------------------ bnfan99
If it's BNSF, it's OK ------------------ Alan The perfect combination - BNSF and N Scale! www.ac-models.com http://Andersley.homestead.com http://galleryusarail_tehcaj.homestead.com http://eurogallery.homestead.com
For my money, the green is too light... needs a lot more black in it and the orange/yellow is missing the blue.
The Pumpkin scheme reminds me alot of the old Great Northern colors after which it is modeled. For those who haven't heard, BNSF is phasing out the Warbonnet scheme. No new locos will be painted in the Warbonnet scheme. So, get your cameras out and get as many shots as you can, they'll be history before you know it.
Hi ChicagoRailfan, welcome to Trainboard Yeah, a famous livery will eventually disappear, but it will be a while yet I think. But we must get the shots while we can, time flies! Not so easy for me though, a twelve-hour flight is needed before I can get my camera out Hope to be over again later this year or early next. ------------------ Alan The perfect combination - BNSF and N Scale! www.ac-models.com http://Andersley.homestead.com http://galleryusarail_tehcaj.homestead.com http://eurogallery.homestead.com
I have seen references elsewhere to a BNSF 'Vomit Bonnet'. What does this refer to? Any idea anyone? Sounds derogatory !! ------------------ Alan The perfect combination - BNSF and N Scale! www.ac-models.com http://Andersley.homestead.com http://galleryusarail_tehcaj.homestead.com http://eurogallery.homestead.com
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Alan: I have seen references elsewhere to a BNSF 'Vomit Bonnet'. What does this refer to? Any idea anyone? Sounds derogatory !! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> "Vomit Bonnet" refers to BNSF SD70MAC 9647 that was painted in an experimental warbonnet scheme using the BN SD70MAC colors. The "bonnet" and side sills were painted dark Grinstein green, while the long hood was painted Grinstein Cream. "Burlington Northern Santa Fe" was spelled out on the hood, in Grinstein Green, Santa Fe style lettering. On the nose, a red and cream cigar band with green "BNSF" lettering completed the scheme. Not too attractive, in my honest opinion! ------------------ Have A Nice Day!
