I'm not a very good photographer, and my modeling skills aren't worth a hoot either. These are the first two cars I bodymounted MT 905 couplers to. They will couple on an 11" radius curve, and the faceplates will just barely touch on the curve when the cars are pushed together. I'd never run them on an 11" radius anyway, it's just what I had handy for the photos. If anyone is interested, I can take pics of the conversion on the next car I do and post them.