Center beam car

shamoo737 Feb 23, 2006

  1. shamoo737

    shamoo737 Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    I always wanted to get one of Robert Ray's center beam cars. It arrive today. The kit looks great with very good instructions. I am stating to build one right away. Now I waiting for the loads to arrive.
     
  2. rray

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    You will be kicking an screaming later, as that kit is not baby food!

    I try to keep them simple, but since I am a 1 man operation, the kits require careful attention to detail to end up with a really nice model.

    On a more positive note... at least Z Scalers have a Centerbeam Kit available. If you take your time, the model will look real nice too!

    The car weight is the hardest part. I use a floquil bottle to roll the weight flat in the cavity where it sits, then superglue it in. Then i use squadron putty to fill in the gap around the weight, and let it dry overnight before sanding smooth with 120 grit or finer, before gluing the underframe ribs piece in place to conceal the weight. That hides it the best.

    Also, I have a new trick for smoother finish. I spray the model with glosscote first, then airbrush it the car color afterwards, to make an even smoother finish.

    Well.. that's all I know! Have fun with it. At least when you are done building a model, you can admire your craftsmanship and feel good about it. You can't do that with a ready to run model.

    -Robert ;)
     
  3. Kez

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    Where are you getting your center beam loads? I have two of Robert's Centerbeam kits to build myself, and I will definitely want some stacked wood loads.

    Thanks,
    Bryan
     
  4. rray

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    Allan Borg of SuZee Line Models makes the centerbeam car loads. He is on the Yahoo list, but I cannot find his address and contact here from work.

    I have enough for 6 cars, and they really look nice, and I am sure they are still available. He also has Centerflow Hopper kits too!

    -Robert
     
  5. RSmidt

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    I'm glad this thread got posted as I should be starting to work on my Centerbeam kits in the next month or so (don't laugh too hard Bryan).

    Randy
     
  6. shamoo737

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    I had to give up some sleep, but I almost finish with my first car. I thought the hardest part is taking the parts out without braking one of them. Robert, good hint on painting them. That was my question . I thought it was going to need multiple coats of paint, because I think the wood is going absorve the first couple of coats. I must admit. I cheated. I read all the instructions. [​IMG]
     
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    Would it make sense to skim coat the wood with a filler putty of some kind? That's what I was thinking, but I like the gloss coat idea better.

    Randy
     
  8. Kez

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    :D [​IMG] :D [​IMG] [​IMG]

    We'll build ours together, since I have two kits that I bought from Chuck over a year ago. I'm very anxious to get started.

    These centerbeams and the bulkheads that Robert has been gratuitously posting pictures of lately ;) are MUCH needed models for our scale.

    I just hope I can do justice to the kits.
    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Bryan
     
  9. rray

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    That is another hard part of the kits, getting the parts free. The easiest way I have found is to use an optivisor and a fresh exacto, then cut the attachment points from the backside.

    I had to leave the pieces attached because if i cut them all the way through, they blow around and land in front of the laser, then some parts don't get cut and the sheet is ruined.

    This, and the station kit are my toughest kits to laser cut due to little pieces blowing around in the laser path.

    It's a model I really wanted for myself, but so many people wanted them so I did waht I could to make them a kit.

    I tried several kinds of plastics, but all I ended up with were melted clumps, so I had to stick with wood.

    -Robert
     
  10. shamoo737

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    Robert, I know I want parts attach. It would a lot harder to find parts if they are loose pieces. I want to build your station next. As soon as finish with the centerbeams.
     
  11. Curn

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    I got a some of these about two weeks ago. I built them all, but they still need paint and decals. Great Kits Rob! What are people using for loads? I was just going to print some Sierra Pacific Industies loads, but I'm not really sure what their logo on the plastic looks like. Anyone have photos?

    Rob, are you ever going to make wood chip cars to go with these?
     
  12. shamoo737

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    Curn, Uncle Will has woodship cars. for the loads. read Robert's Post.
     
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    Tight radius testing. Made couple mistake on the first car. The next car should be a improvement. [​IMG]


    I have desided to hand paint the car, and then airbrush it. [​IMG]

    [ February 24, 2006, 04:27 PM: Message edited by: shamoo737 ]
     
  14. rray

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    Yeah, the Centerbeam cars are not so nice on tight radius. If you put a load on them it helps, but best is for 9" radius or larger.

    Still it's great to see that people are actually building these kits [​IMG] as they are kind of hard to do. It makes you feel good when you get one done and look at all the effort that went into assembly.

    -Robert
     
  15. minzemaennchen

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    Hi Robert,

    just finished my first center beam except painting. I have to say: that's one of the best kits I ever build! Everything fits exactly and I never thought wood can be so filigree and still so solid. Totally amazed! And when I look on my result it's really a shame to paint that nice wooden structure....
    Another two kits are waiting....:D
     
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    That's the problem I have after spending all the time invested to build a kit. I look at the wood and feel it is a shame to paint it. :D
     
  17. al borg

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    I find that when I assemble the beam cars I use thin fast superglue and that tends to fill the pores of the wood quite nicely. A little sanding to make the multiple layers match up then airbrush.
    Allan Borg
     
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    When I moved from N scale 4 years ago, I got 2 kits but after havin look at the thing, I told myself: not for me, too small, too difficult.

    2 weeks ago, raining days on vacation, I sat down and put myself to the task.

    Surprise, those kits are easy event for a very average modeler.

    They are really great and run straight and my samll layout with very tight radius..
    I will built my second one pretty soon and I plan to get more.

    Raymond
     

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