Dirty Wheel Issues

BarstowRick Apr 21, 2020

  1. BarstowRick

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    And yet you've never even seen the movie.
    Hum-mm !!

    By the way what are you hiding? You used to post George in your signature.


    ven

    You go right ahead, I'm waiting for you to finally get it.
     
  2. mtntrainman

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    ROFLMAO !!!:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

    I had to change my signature to include the blurb about the magazine article. Priorities ya know...LOL.

    I figure after 11 years...everyone knows my name anyways :p

    BTW...I have Grumpy Old Men and Grumpier Old Men on DVD and watch them now and then. I imagine you have them recorded on VHS tape stashed somewhere. Does your VCR still work...LMAO:LOL::LOL::LOL::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
     
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  3. BarstowRick

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    VCR's all three of them still work LOL, when you consider cost savings to purchase everything new in DVD. :sick::confused::p

    Oh, and if you don't behave, I'm going to have my cat crap on your newspaper. Heeheehee Just don't feed your dog chili. Aiiyiiyii

    Let's see those two guys had nick's for each other. Putt's and DA I think.
     
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    Video tape? DVD? Blu Ray? Gotta get 4K HD! Like this one from the 1800's:
     
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  6. BarstowRick

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    My last word on the subject is: In regards to Model Railroading, keep WD40 off the layout.
    It was designed to be a water disperse r. If your layout is flooded and you need to disperse water maybe then. And George was close enough to that.

    Notice I'm not laughing.

    I have a layout to get back up and on it's feet. Stand by for a layout restoration thread. Just don't hold your breath. A blue face isn't very becoming. I can't do CPR long distance.

    See signature.
     
  7. mtntrainman

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    Yea...keep it off the 'layout'...just use it on the 'rails'....:p:p:whistle:
     
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    "Sigh"....Just like with my kids...I have to keep repeating myself....:rolleyes:

     
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    For certain reasons, I am actually looking for a spray that prevents "arse-ing" of myself and others... :rolleyes:
     
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  11. John Moore

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    Well it has been about two weeks since I applied No Ox to a section of rails and WD-40 contact cleaner to another portion of rails. Locos ran fine on both sections.

    Using separate cut sections of Georges' old white socks to run over the rails about three to four times. The one on the left is No Ox the right is the WD-40 contact cleaner.

    Slight edge to the No Ox and a slight edge in application to WD-40 contact cleaner and about the same for both if I had not treated the Kato unitrack at all. I live in a maritime area where humidity gets to 99% at night and currently 45% in the man cave. AC on currently and winter heat is either radiator or forced air, I have a dual heating system. Prior to this test I was using a bright boy and a Aztec car followed by masonite pad cars. Since switching to unitrack I have had less electrical issues and trains were running fine before the test. I am not sold on anything that leaves a residue on the tracks, No Ox does but I do not believe the WD-40 contact cleaner does. So I would give the edge to the contact cleaner in that regard.
     
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  12. BarstowRick

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    Funny, I was thinking the same thing. Nobody listens to me with any seriousness. My kids didn't. Must be the retarded image I portray. Do you think?

    You'll figure it out.
     
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    It's not even American. :confused::ROFLMAO::LOL::cool:

    Oh and John, the proof isn't on the rags it's on the wheels and track.

    This experiment is missing the obvious and the reason for this thread.

    And you haven't figured it out yet but you will.
     
  15. John Moore

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    The problem is I do not see hardly any if at all crud on the car wheel whether plastic or metal. The locos get run about twice a year on the Tidy Track wheel cleaner and I have not had to change the pads once since I bought it there is that little crud. The only time I have had really cruddy wheels was when I bought a used loco or cars at a train show. Looked like the brat in the house had gone out and ran them through a mud puddle. My only issues seem to be with track in the past. Especially with the Peco stuff. I was constantly having to clean points with the turnouts, or switches. Atlas track seemed to be a crud magnet. I believe it is inherent to the metal composition. My unitrack gets a little dirty at times but locos keep on running and I have yet to have to mess with cleaning points. The unitrack has been inservice now for about a year. Most of my cars have MT plastic trucks a few have metal trucks and are usually Bmann equipment.

    I feel that No Ox is not a answer for the simple reason a residue is left behind. That residue is going to eventually attract dust. A simple wipe on wipe off is better that does not leave any residue behind and I believe the WD-40 contact cleaner is better in that regard not to mention easier to apply. The No Ox is going in a drawer and will probably only see use for internal electrical connections. I will rely on my tried and true cleaning cars and the bright boy where I can't run the cars. Maybe once or twice a year I will use the contact cleaner on the rails. I also frequently vacuum the layout paying attention to the tracks especially. I have a small Bissell hand held vac that is a plug in that is quite powerful.

    Maybe the one issue of why I haven't seen crud on car wheels has been my layout locations. Always been in a room with AC in the house and the systems get regular twice a year filter changes. I have never been in a basement, garage, or attic, and the layout does not travel to shows.

    In summation I believe the issue is one are all of the following factors. Cheap poor metal for rails and loco wheels, so called track and wheel cleaners that leave a residue and just worsen the problem over time, and the environment that layout is in. I do not see any difference between metal or plastic wheels as far as dirt or crud. Kato seems to be on top as far as the metal they used for track and wheels. from my perspective this is an over blown issue. Either that or in my blissful ignorance I am doing something right.
     
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  16. BarstowRick

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    John, You got it. :cool:
     
  17. John Moore

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    I also could have added that I did nothing at all to the back tracks on the layout and the locos ran fine at creep speed back there too. I would say it boils down to better metal that the rails are made of.
     
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    And thanks!
     

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