ATSF Fact or fiction?

virtual-bird May 25, 2004

  1. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Great! This "Bellows Boilered" version is the one of which I was thinking. The one I'd mentioned being done in HO brass by Bill Schopp.

    Welcome aboard!

    :D

    Boxcab E50
     
  2. Stourbridge Lion

    Stourbridge Lion TrainBoard Supporter

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    You might find this URL of interest related to these engines as well.

    DHVM: Steam Engine Roster {Class E-7}
     
  3. kotaro

    kotaro TrainBoard Member

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    Thanks, for many photo of locomotive 1400. Mr.Stourbridge Lion,
    I'm intresting of Delaware and Hudson's hipressure locomotive and D&H's early railway gauge of 4ft. 3in.

    Her is another photo of D&H hipressure locomotive
    http://www.skyrocket.de/locomotive/data/dh__1403.htm
     
  4. Stourbridge Lion

    Stourbridge Lion TrainBoard Supporter

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    You will find that the DHVM is the largest online resource on the D&H when it comes to images as well as links and list of publications to continue your research. [​IMG]

    By the way, WELCOME to TRAINBOARD and it's great to see others from around the world such as yourself added to our membership to share in the world's number one hobby. [​IMG]

    - Enjoy! :D
     
  5. watash

    watash Passed away March 7, 2010 TrainBoard Supporter In Memoriam

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    Hi Kotaro, Welcome to our family here on the TrainBoard! We are glad to have you with us. Do you model in Ho or other scale, or are you a real sized railroad photo fan? I hope you stop by often and bring photos. :D
     
  6. kotaro

    kotaro TrainBoard Member

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    Hello Mr.watash,
    My personal hobby is to read old magazine of steam locomotive at the library.
    I like America's old low speed compound expansion mallet, such as SantaFe, N&W, Virginian.
     
  7. watash

    watash Passed away March 7, 2010 TrainBoard Supporter In Memoriam

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    Mr. Kotaro, as my friend in railroading, you may call me Watash. No need to be formal as in business, we are now "buddies". OK?

    Have you read about how the old expansion type mallets were hard to start rolling from a standing stop, and why?

    There was an engine that had the two fromt cylinders 44" in diameter to adjust between the difference in high pressure steam in the rear cylinders, and the low pressure expansion of exhaust steam going into the front cylinders.

    I can email you a couple of photos of those old emgines if you woulld like to see them.

    Have you ever seen a steam engine that was an 0-2-0 and had no tender? There was one!
     
  8. William Cowie

    William Cowie TrainBoard Member

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    [​IMG] Kotaro-san, welcome to Trainboard! [​IMG] :D We hope you will enjoy sharing with us your knowledge of American steam! [​IMG]
     
  9. kotaro

    kotaro TrainBoard Member

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    OK, hellow Watash.
    What I have read about is, compound engine mallete have to start as a simple engine.
    Also she has to run as a simple at the steep grade.
    One advantage of compound is economize fuel consumption but it requiers complex driving technic.

    The low pressure cylinder's displacement volume is approximately two times of high pressure cylinder's.
    So, low pressure cylinder's diameter requiers 1.4 times of high pressure cylinder's diameter, when low and high cylinder is same number and same stroke.

    I want to see your old cmpound engines' potos.

    I've never heard of 0-2-0 engine.
    Plase let me know about 0-2-0 engine more.
    There were some 0-1-1-0(?) engines running on monorail, for French exsample.
    http://panissieres.free.fr/panissieres/monorail.php

    Hellow, William Cowie-san.
    I want to study great history of American steam locomotive, thanks.
     
  10. Stourbridge Lion

    Stourbridge Lion TrainBoard Supporter

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    Then you find the DHVM Website rich with Steam History. Something you might not be aware of is that on August 8, 1829 the D&H engine "Stourbridge Lion" has the first steam engine to operate in North America.

    This replica can be found in Honesdale, PA which is the home of American steam locomotives. :D

    [​IMG]

    The D&H halted steam operations shortly afterwards until 1860 when #1 {Major Sykes}
    began operations on the Gravity Railroad.

    [​IMG]
     
  11. kotaro

    kotaro TrainBoard Member

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    Hellow Stoubridge Lion, thanks to couple of photos.
    I beg to change the subject of A.T.&SantaFe mallete,
    Stourbridge Lion was build in England by Foster Rastrick & Co.
    This locomotive run D&H's wooden railway.

    Till the nineteen-eighty, D&H's mainline railway gauge was 6feet, I think.
    I wonder, this locomotive's gauge is whether 4ft. 8 1/2in. or 6ft.
     
  12. Stourbridge Lion

    Stourbridge Lion TrainBoard Supporter

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    I won't go into detail here since we have a Fallen Flag forums for railroads such as the D&H but the Stourbridge Lion was 4 ft. 3 in. gauge. :cool:

    Also, the Stourbridge Lion was one of four (4) engines that the D&H had shipped from England in those early years. The others were called the "America", "Delaware", and "Hudson" but were all lost to history very quickly. :(

    If you would like to talk in detail follow this link and open a new topic there. [​IMG]
    TrainBoard - Fallen Flags D&H Forum
     
  13. kotaro

    kotaro TrainBoard Member

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    Thanks, Stoubridge Lion.
    What I wanted to know was, D&H early locomotive gauge, as there is no description about it in my Japanese book "Genesis of American Railroads".
     
  14. Stourbridge Lion

    Stourbridge Lion TrainBoard Supporter

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  15. kotaro

    kotaro TrainBoard Member

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    Thanks,
    My only reference is English magazine
    "The Railway Gazette" 1923y, May.
    Article of "The Delaware & Hudson Centenary".
     
  16. Stourbridge Lion

    Stourbridge Lion TrainBoard Supporter

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    Just dropping you a note to let you know I haven't forgotten this. Should have some information posted this weekend now that we are back online again. [​IMG]
     
  17. Stourbridge Lion

    Stourbridge Lion TrainBoard Supporter

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    Both #1 - Major Sykes and #2 - C. P. Wurts built in 1860 are listed as 4' 3" Gauge engines. The D&H started to expand to 4' 8" and on December 14, 1871 a 120 mile line from Albany to Nineveh was a operating as a mixed gauge. Belive this or not, below Carbondale in 1870, four (4) rails were used: one common running rail, a 4-3" gravity rail, a Standard gauge rail, and a 6' rail to support Erie equipment. [​IMG]
     
  18. kotaro

    kotaro TrainBoard Member

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  19. Stourbridge Lion

    Stourbridge Lion TrainBoard Supporter

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    How about quad gauge track? [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  20. kotaro

    kotaro TrainBoard Member

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    Quad gauge track maybe exists in the locomotive works, but I've not seen it.
     

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