I previously said that I would post details about how the Allies had approached the complications of unloading hundreds of locomotives and rail cars onto beaches since they had not captured any ports shortly after D-Day. From Popular Science February 1945 http://books.google.com/books?id=Ay...=0CFYQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=760th diesel&f=false Quite the engineering accomplishment. Steve
This photo is of an amor plate Whitcomb that hangs in the gift shop at the Rochelle Railroad park. I will get a glare-free photo later on. The MRS drawings show that they carried about 3 tons of armor. Steve
In my search for Whitcomb history I came across this book: And some reference to Whitcomb: The first cited source I checked was in error: As you can see there is absolutely nothing on pages 5-8 about Whitcomb. In fact the only reference to Whitcomb in the entire magazine is an add in the back. As I research this I have gotten to the point where I believe nothing until I see it myself. Too many false statements and errors. Steve
Another Churella cited source did prove accurate: This gives me some previous background on where H. V. Huleguard came from and when he took over Whitcomb operations. He ran the plant thoughout WW II. This also agrees with the old time engineer and his account: Steve 3241
A really good way to do it. I have seen far too many books, magazines, etc, which lazy authors, self-proclaimed scholars and researchers, do exactly what you are avoiding. Then false information keeps getting spread farther and farther, which along with unmerited reputations of those writers it is being accepted as gospel, only does us all harm.
I knew this information was contradicting what I was finding in the court cases and neither Whitcomb nor Baldwin challenged it in those courts. Another one I found: Which looks a whole lot like this: Pinkepank has absolutely no reference for this information and Churella has cited two Baldwin Magazines - both of which pre-date the supposed buy-back of this 8% outstanding stock. Pinkepanks claim that Whitcomb came out of bankruptcy named "THE WHITCOMB LOCOMOTIVE WORKS" has been repeated all over the net including the Wiki article that used that as its article name. Baldwin never called it "WORKS". I have yet to find where this came from. Steve
The other Churella cited source from 1934 is here: As you can read on page 23 the magazine clearly states that " . . .The Whitcomb Locomotive Company, which became a part of the Baldwin group in 1931 . . ." Steve
From Baldwin Locomotives magazine February 1940. I wonder if any of these have survived. If you wish to see the rest of the magazine . . . . http://www.rypn.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=34806 Steve
I'm very thrilled with finding this photo from the 763rd Railway Operating Battalion of a Whitcomb 65-ton Diesel Electric unloading on a beach in France during WW II - guessing post D-Day Fall 1944. http://www.scribd.com/doc/21760100/763rd-Railway-Operating-Battalion-History Steve
I know this is sliding off topic a bit, but I would be curious to learn a little more about that ferry. I will guess that it being Royal Navy, she did not last long after WWII?
I wondered the exact same thing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Twickenham_Ferry And some background on Calais, France where the H.M.S. Twickenham was unloading locomotives (Whitcombs possibly) if the Wiki article is correct: [SUP] Steve[/SUP]
Yes. Sad, but true. I was just looking at a map of the Oregon Trail + Bozeman Trail on Wikipedia. Dunno who drew it up, but it shows such as "The Fetterman Massaker". Oh really? What happened to "massacre?" And then up at Fort Benton, Montana, on the Missouri River, another stream flowing on the south of that Fort as being the "Flathead River". The three forks of the Flathead are west of the Rockies, and flow westward into what becomes the Columbia River system. The other river by Fort Benton is the Teton River and it's tributaries. UGH.
"Massaker"! People have gone from being too lazy to reach for a dictionary to being too lazy to reach for the spell check button.:crying: And geography - too lazy to google search a map? I worry about the future of this nation. Steve
In German: Massaker ist der umgangssprachliche Ausdruck für einen Massenmord unter besonders grausamen Umständen, ein Gemetzel oder Blutbad, häufig im Zusammenhang mit Motiven wie Hass oder Rache. Das Wort leitet sich vom altfranzösischen maçacre, „Schlachthaus“, her. Translates into English: Massacre is the colloquial term for a mass murder under particularly cruel circumstances, a slaughter or carnage, often in connection with motifs such as hatred or revenge. The word derives from the Old French maçacre, "slaughterhouse", here.
Yes. But the map was compiled in all English. For which use of massaker would only be a glaring error.
Being of German decent myself, it was not uncommon for German words to be used as English at home and given American English is a mix-mash of languages what is truly right Take a look at this German Map; it looks English but it's of German origin and thus "Fetterman Massaker" is the correct usage on that map... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/Bozeman01.png
Speaking of maps - this is the centerfold from the WW II booklet published by the MRS in early 1945, "American Rails in Eight Countries". It must have been drawn before the Allies entered Germany. Steve
Just found these last night: http://militaryrailwayservice.blogspot.com/2013/04/733rd-railway-operating-battalion.html These are photos of a Whitcomb 65-ton Diesel Locomotive in ETO during WW II. Steve
Stumbled upon this site quite by accident. There are some poor views of diesels. http://www.paperlessarchives.com/FreeTitles/Historyofthe718thRailwayOperatingBattalion.pdf
Ken, thanks for listing the site ! The written history of the Battalion is just as valuable as the photos and maybe even more to the WWII buff ! As once again it shows the spirit, forbarence and determination of US military men and women in a call to support direct combat action in ETO against the Axis powers . Little did the Axis know they were up against the greatest fighting force in the world ... something the Japanesse were learning the hard way ... Never kick a sleeping dog ! May God bless our country !!
