GP loco differences

GP30 Dec 4, 2004

  1. GP30

    GP30 TrainBoard Member

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    What external differences are there between a GP38 and a GP38-2? Gp40/ GP40-2?

    Can -2's be substituted for non -2's? (except for SD40's, I know)

    The issue is, I have a GP38 and a GP40 by Athearn they are both called dash 2 unites, but can they both double as GP38 and GP40 for a mid- to- late 60's setting?
     
  2. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Dash 2 line body has an inspection glass for checking water level. Battery box doors are bolt-ons instead of hinged. Slight overhang of cab roof at back, versus flush. Different trucks- Spring hangers, dampening struts, side frames.

    :D

    Boxcab E50
     
  3. GP30

    GP30 TrainBoard Member

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    ah ha! Thanks again Box. :D
     
  4. Flash Blackman

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    What about anti-climbers on the -2 series? Was that universal, too? Or not really an identifying characteristic?
     
  5. doofus

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    A single brake shoe on each wheel and a single brake cylinder on each truck are other identifiers. Anti-climbers are not a given on -2s.
     
  6. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Anti-climbers were an option. But not part of the specific Dash 2 package.

    :D

    Boxcab E50
     
  7. Shooter

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    Don't forget the electrical box behind the cab on the fireman's side on the dash-2s.

    ---jps
     
  8. isboris4449

    isboris4449 In Memoriam

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    The trucks are not a reliable way to identify a GP-38-2 from a GP-38. Many railroads opted to have their -2's ride on reconditioned Blomberg trucks from trade-ins rather than the new Blomberg M truck, which is most easily identified by it's dampening strut on one axle on each side.

    Tom
     
  9. DanRaitz

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    There are numerous spotting features of the dash2's. These are the features that are found on all dash2's whether a GP or SD.

    First, there is the roof overhang on the back of the cab.

    2nd, the water level sight glass.

    3rd, the radiator access cover plates

    4th, the battery compartment (on the conductors side) extends back under the cab.

    Dan

    (edited spelling of wether (don't need any castrated sheep around here)).
     

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  10. Flash Blackman

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    Blomberg Trucks

    Here is a pretty good page on Blomberg trucks.
     
  11. dingoix

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    Also, the early GP38s had the rear fans spaced apart, while on the -2s and the newer 38s, the fans were closer together. Also, after 1980, Q-fans could be found on the -2s.
     

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