Intermountain Frame Rot !!

mtntrainman Sep 1, 2023

  1. JMaurer1

    JMaurer1 TrainBoard Member

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    I (luckily) don't have very many IM locos...several cab forwards and maybe some SP BW F-3's...and maybe some WP F-3's. I keep putting off checking them because of, well, fear of what I will find.

    I wonder if it is possible for someone to 3D print (in metal...they can do that now) replacement frames...?
     
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  2. Doug Gosha

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    I guess it's good that the motor armature coils weren't made of Zamac.

    :D

    Doug
     
  3. NorsemanJack

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    Back in the day, I had this dream that IMR would give up on the mechanism part and just produce retrofit shells for Kato chassis. IMR did such a great job producing detailed shells in countless prototype schemes and road numbers but such a lousy job with mechanisms (see OP for exhibit a).
     
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  4. DCESharkman

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    The F units are a lot narrower than the Kato F units.
     
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  5. mtntrainman

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    PM me Dave...(y)(y)
     
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  6. NorsemanJack

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    So make shells that fit? That was my dream.
     
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  7. 308GTSi

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    I had a similar thought but it was polyurethane cast chassis similar to Life-Like E units weighted down with tungsten carbide. Tungsten carbide can be purchased in small rectangular blocks suitable for replacing tips on saw blades. :)
     
  8. mtntrainman

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    OK...here are the parts that are salvaged from each unit. All kinds of different shells.

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  9. NorsemanJack

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    Is that shell as bowed out as it looks in the photo? Yikes!
     
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  10. mtntrainman

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    NO...its just the angle the pic was taken at. The shell is pristine !!!(y)
     
  11. JMaurer1

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    Well I tried to dig out my IM engines and either I have put them somewhere I can't find them or the frame rot got the entire locomotive. I found a ATSF F-3 A&B (I didn't know I HAD a ATSF F-3 set) and it looks to be fine, but I know that I had at least one if not two SP FT or F-3 sets that have vanished. I guess its better not to know than to know for sure.
     
  12. Hardcoaler

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    It looks like the "chicken wire" grille has come loose at the right?
     
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  13. NorsemanJack

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    Yep. That's part of what made me think that the shell was bowed out.
     
  14. MRLdave

    MRLdave TrainBoard Member

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    Those grills pop out if you even look at them wrong.......I'm constantly repairing mine.
     
  15. mtntrainman

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    Like Dave said...they are some super fine mesh grills. Gluing them back in seems simple enough.
     
  16. SuperGoat

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    So after being away from N scale for quite some time, when did this rot problem with IM engines start and end?
     
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  17. MRLdave

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    It's an old problem that resurfaces from time to time.........IM had problems with their tunnel motors and SD45s......and apparently with some F units. I heard MT recently had some boxcar frames have the problem too.
     
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  18. 308GTSi

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    Thats my favourite passenger paint scheme after SP's Daylights !
    :)
     
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  19. Doug Gosha

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    Maybe the makers will do a retro with the frames and go back to plastic instead of Zamak like some have done with going back to wires.

    None of my old Life-Like frames have...you know... cracked, swollen, or fallen apart.
    :D

    Doug
     
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  20. mtntrainman

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    Just say NO !!! :eek::eek:
     
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