Is there a corrosion problem with the new MT track?

david f. Oct 14, 2005

  1. david f.

    david f. TrainBoard Supporter

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    I've been gone a week on study leave, and upon returning fired up the GP-35 on the new oval of MT track. The engine sputtered and stalled -- and ran very rough.

    as i began a little cleaning of the track (which improved the engine's peformance noticably) i also noticed some white powdery accumulation along the track (especially at the joiners). the engine wheels and trucks showed a little of the white dust too.

    this is colorado -- dry air, 7000 feet! Why would there be any corrosion? there's none on the N scale track next to it -- and never has been.

    i hope this is a fluke and there is some other explanation. i've not "treated" the track with anything -- just "plug and play" -- yet there is the white stuff.

    is anyone else having a problem -- or observing something similar?

    thanks, dave f.
     
  2. JoeS

    JoeS TrainBoard Member

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    I haven't had a problem with mine, and I will go 3-4 days inbetween running during the week. I am not sure what to make of it. :confused: If I notice anything I will let you know. I was actually thinking just the opposite, that the new track needs less cleaning than my marklin track on my old layout.
     
  3. rray

    rray Staff Member

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    Maybe your wife silently sprinkled some ajax on the track in hopes your locomotives would all corrode, so you will loose interest in trains, and pay more attention to her? :eek: [​IMG]

    Haha! That's something that only MY first wife would do, not anybody elses!

    But really, I looked over my track and did not notice any corrosion. So what I would recommend is to clean the track with your bright boy, then use some Pacer Rail Zip to keep corrosion at bay.

    I have used it for years with good results in N Scale, and on my Z Scale modules for the past year. The way they suggest is to polish the rails with an eraser or brightboy, then wipe on a thin film and let sit for 30 minutes or so, then use a moistened with water towel to wipe it off.

    Yes they say to use a towel moistened with water! It works well enough, as the trains will run all day at the shows without issue. For wipes, I cut up an old cotton t-shirt into 1" squares, and they work real well.

    -Robert
     
  4. Joe D'Amato

    Joe D'Amato TrainBoard Member

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    I doubt if what you have is corrosion, it wouldn't show up as a white powder. All I can think of is dust or someone with dusting powder pulling a prank. I have about 15' of it on my test track here at MTL and haven't cleaned it in a month...no problems. If is persists, send the track back to MTL and we will check it out and replace if necessary.

    Joe D'Amato :D
    MTL
     
  5. rray

    rray Staff Member

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    Hi Joe, and welcome to Trainboard! :D

    I hear you are painting some GP's into CORP for your own layout. Please post some photo's when you get around to the repaints.

    -Robert [​IMG]
     
  6. Joe D'Amato

    Joe D'Amato TrainBoard Member

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    Good to be here. Yes, since I have access to the masks for the UP GP it makes the job sooooo much easier! I am also doing a few W&P and a few other Oregon based Railroads. I only have two chassis so far and will switch out shells for different ops, but sooner or later my chassis collection will catch up with the shells! I should have some painted today and will post later tonight. I also plan on doing a couple of your GP-39 conversions as well, love the look. Since CORP has a few old BN cast offs in their green and black base colors, these would fit.

    Joe
     
  7. david f.

    david f. TrainBoard Supporter

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    Thanks Joe,
    i raised the question to see if anyone else had observed the phenomena. i can't explain what i saw, but perhaps there was something in the air that would react to all exposed metals. it was not severe, just the funny whitening around rail joiners in particular -- and the rough running of my otherwise sweet and smooth GP-35.

    since cleaning the track, the problem hasn't returned (but i have run my train on it a little every day, since then).

    fyi -- i just ordered more track from BLWnscale to "finish" my layout ... that is until turnouts are available!

    thanks for your response.
    dave f.
     
  8. shamoo737

    shamoo737 Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    David, how about a picture of the layout.
     
  9. watash

    watash Passed away March 7, 2010 TrainBoard Supporter In Memoriam

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    Are the rails made from a "Paint-Lok" or zinc plated steel? Zinc corrosion happens close to joints when electrical current is present. Tin oxide is also a white substance, and has replaced lead oxide in making white paints today. Somewhere I read that the new low-lead solders, called "Pewter" will sometimes collect a whitish powder when used on nickle silver rails and German silver parts.

    It may have rained and a high humidity might have caused some oxidation to soft solder at the joints between dissimilar metals too.

    I'm guessing.
     
  10. Kurt Moose

    Kurt Moose TrainBoard Member

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    My track has been on my layout for about two weeks now and nothing and it sits in the garage and we've had plenty of rain and cold weather!! :rolleyes:
     

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