MP15's

I was on the Brooklyn Loco Works website yesterday and noticed an ad for the ConCor N scale MP15. I know that they make this in HO scale, and didn't know that it was also available in N.

Does anyone have any information on this model, and (I hate to ask) how might it compare to the upcoming Atlas unit? I am thinking of getting at least one to paint in Long Island colours.

Thanks
Chris Mears
Charlottetown,PEI

 

I put decoders in 2 of them and I was pleased with the way they ran. I also like the way they came factory equipped with MT couplers. Nice units, just the handrails are a little thick.

 

I don't know anything about the CC units, but am planning on putting my $$ on the Atlas units. Generally, better running and better detailed.

Harold

 

Like others, I've had very varied luck with ConCor product. Some CC like my fleet of RDC's are some of my favourite operating units, but I can't overlook CC's for really marking up the garbage.

I guess the real question here is: Any Long Island fans reading this care to comment on which manufacturer's switcher might be better to go after with the end intention of modelling a LIRR unit.

 

Start with an undec atlas unit, then modfiy it to a MP-15AC.

I have reason to beleive we'll see a MP-15AC in N some day so you could just hold out for that.

 

I've heard that soon after Atlas will have released their MP-15DC an AC conversion will be available from mark4design... ( http://www.mark4design.com )

 

I saw a pic of what appears to be an Atlas MP15DC in Missouri Pacific livery on "that auction site". The trucks and fuel tank are black. The prototypes were gray:



I was hoping Atlas would have released these in Jenks Blue to match their Mopac B23-7s. They probably will rerun the blue scheme in the future. I guess I need a couple of undecs in the meantime.

~Tim

 

tim after looking at that ebay item i see it is from china, there has been a rash of people getting their hands on items over there that have not been released yet, i collect code 3 fire trucks and they somehow get them before they are even announced or released, everytime without a box or paperwork, 2 months ago there was one from over there listing and got in trouble with ebay and feds or something because it was stolen items from shipping companies.

 

I think there would be some major reworking of the MP15DC to obtain a MP15AC. Also, the AC's have a longer frame than the DC version so it would probably need a new mechanism to do it justice. The difference in the prototype is something in the region of 2'3" from memory.

 

Thanks Mitch... Afterwards I thought that ebay item might be a bootleg copy.

~Tim

 

That's because everyone uses the early MP15DC measurements when comparing them

In late 1974 (Nov/Dec) the MP15DC was lengthened a foot. Out of 351 MP15DCs built, 32 were built on the shorter frame (of those 32, P&LE(10) and MP(15) were the only Class 1s to own them)...

All other MP15DCs have a 24' 2" wheelbase, are 45' 6" pilot-to pilot and 48'8" over couplers

MP15AC/MP15T have a 24' 8" wheelbase, are 46' pilot-to-pilot and 50' 2" over couplers.

 

this picture, right ?



hmmm ? the seller was from China (hint), the engine was offered w/o original box (hint), the shell was on a wrong drive (hint), the auction was ended early by the seller after a buyer with name "judgeroy" placed two bids (hint) !
(this is the auction number: 6007855222 )

 

Then it would be close enough (roughly 1mm) chassis-wise between the pair. The body length can be accounted for in the mods needed.

Thanks Robbman for pointing out the change in frame length, of which I didn't know. All references I had were garnered from information that obviously had the shorter (early) MP15DC lengths.

 

No problem.

The long hood is longer, but the MP15AC/T used an anticlimber/walkway extension on the long hood end to get around this (EMD also did this with the GP50)