My ICE2 Derails in One Direction???

Magnat1978 Jan 8, 2005

  1. Magnat1978

    Magnat1978 TrainBoard Member

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    My Train seems to derail when travelling in one Direction...
    I have ran the train over the area that it derails on slowly in both directions and it de-rails the Middle Carriage only, the rest are OK..
    It happens when the train is being pulled and not when it is being pushed..


    Any Idea's ??
     
  2. HemiAdda2d

    HemiAdda2d Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Have you got a NMRA standards guage? Maybe the wheel guage is out of whack, or the trck in question is kinked, the joint uneven, rough, or the track guage is out of whack as well. A standards guage is a very good $10 USD investment for all your layout's needs. You can find it at Walthers, or most any hobby shop that will order from Walther's.
     
  3. Another ATSF Admirer

    Another ATSF Admirer TrainBoard Member

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    I had a place where a train would derail but only traveling clockwise. The actual place of derail was the frog of a point/switch/turnout; but the point itself was in gauge. and the engine was in gauge. Looking at the engine verrry carefully while travelling verrry slowly, I worked it out.

    Track layout was straight, point, curve; and the curve was out of gauge.
    Trains heading clockwise: straight -> curve would get "upset" on the curve (lift wheels and rock around), but settle down and carry on without derailling.
    But trains heading counter-clockwise, would get upset on the out of gauge section, and then hit the point (literally) without having time to settle. Instant derail.

    So, when you say it only derails one car heading in one direction, take a closer look at the track it hits immediately before that point - after checking track and wheels with the handy NMRA gauge - it could be the problem occurs earlier and the train just derails at the next interesting piece of track - usually a point.

    If, by ICE2, you mean the high speed german passenger train, note that a european model may not exactly adhere to the NMRA standards. Does NEM offer a gauge?

    (Fixed my problem by relaying that curve.)
     
  4. Keith

    Keith TrainBoard Supporter

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    Another possibility are the trucks being just a bit too tight. Loosen the truck pin by gently rocking truck side to side. Or use a small screwdriver to loosen screw, if held on that way.

    Also check the wheels. Make sure the axle ends are seated properly in the sideframes. Make sure a wheel set does not hang down when car is picked up. Also make sure wheel is not pushed UP in frame either.

    I've had these situations cause me troubl at one time or another. Just my thoughts.
     
  5. Magnat1978

    Magnat1978 TrainBoard Member

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    Well The Problem fixed itself, the train derailed, fell 1.6 metres to a thankfully Soft carpet floor and all the Wheels popped off the train, so I spent a good 20mins re aligning everything and no the ICE2 Runs sweet no more derailing even at high speed.... I am now errecting a Safety Barrier so that if it de-rails again it wont fall to its death.

    I can only assume one of the carriages was not assembled properly at the Factory All is good now.
     
  6. HemiAdda2d

    HemiAdda2d Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Glad to hear you rectified the problem!
     

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