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broadway zephyr Feb 28, 2007

  1. signalz

    signalz Passed away September 22, 2007 In Memoriam

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    I've often thought about getting another CZ set. However, I have 14 other Kato Q stainless to use on other Zephyrs. With this I can intermix many other off line cars. If only they made them......
     
  2. Calzephyr

    Calzephyr TrainBoard Supporter

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    This brings up a interesting thought... I have the complete Empire Builder (15 cars)... but... I doubt an A/B/A set of F units would have been used to pull such a long consist. Were E8 or E7 units used with the F7 units to pull the EB or did they normally add extra F7B or F7A units?
     
  3. NorsemanJack

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    GN didn't have any E8s. E7s were initially tried for the Empire Builder, but like the other mountain roads they were soon determined to not be optimal for the task at hand. I believe that extra F units were added in the Western regions for the mountain grades. Of course, the Empire Builder "split" in Eastern Washington, so the train got shorter at that point. Being a first class train, the EB motive power was likely relieved of the burden of pulling a lot of heavy head end equipment.
     
  4. wig-wag-trains.com

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    I believe that many eastern modelers will be very happy, very soon.
     
  5. Calzephyr

    Calzephyr TrainBoard Supporter

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    Suspense is heightened!!!

    A cute train from the east???? How about the southeast???

    A Southern Crescent? An Orange Blossom Special? The Silver Meteor or Silver Star?

    I might actually get an OBS if Kato went 'out-on-a-limb' and made an accurate E4 A/B/A to go with it.... but... I doubt it will happen.
     
  6. N&W

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    The Sunset Limited ran east ... east of the Rockies! ;)
     
  7. Sizemore

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    Stop toying with my emotions.
     
  8. wig-wag-trains.com

    wig-wag-trains.com Advertiser

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    I never said that the 'cute' train was an eastern train.

    And now that Kato is more than 24hrs late from when we were told to expect the announcement I need a Coors or three!
     
  9. Calzephyr

    Calzephyr TrainBoard Supporter

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    AHA!... now I'm more confused than ever... :huh:

    Okay... lets see... George' comment could have a hidden meaning... "I need a Coors or three'... hmmm... what could that mean???? George wants to get a little buzz... that's it!!!! A buzzsaw... as in the MOPAC buzzsaw!!!! Maybe it is a Colorado Eagle!!!! Wait a minute... that is not an eastern road.... but... it is further east than the other trains Kato has announced... although it goes east from Denver to St Louis... :confused:
     
  10. gunner

    gunner TrainBoard Member

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    Nope, it's got to be the Silver Bullet.

    Bob
     
  11. skipgear

    skipgear TrainBoard Member

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    Don't laugh, there is a O27 Silver Bullet due before Christmas.
     

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  12. Westfalen

    Westfalen TrainBoard Member

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    Geez, this is worse than waiting to find out what happens to Harry Potter. At least if its an eastern train I can put my credit card away.
     
  13. AB&CRRone

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    Well, there is always the Dixie Flagler. Ran between Chicago (take note Kato) and Florida over five different roads. The CE&I, L&N, NC&StL and FEC diesels should not be too hard. The AB&C streamlined Pacific might be a little tougher.

    Ben
     
  14. Rich Businger

    Rich Businger TrainBoard Member

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    Don't put that credit card away so fast. Wallets east and west will be moaning.
     
  15. wig-wag-trains.com

    wig-wag-trains.com Advertiser

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    NO meaning to Coors

    Dang,
    I lived in Colorado three times.
    Littleton 75-81, and again in Denver from 90 thru 91,
    I lived in Alamosa from 95-2001.
    I drink Coors Light and I'm very frustrated that announcements are not being made when we were told to expect them. I'd like a beer. NO implication was intended.

    I like to think of myself as a modeler. Yes I accept comprimises.
    BUT, I would not buy a Silver Bullet train.
    I would not even try to promote such a train.
    I'm not sure that we'd even sell it if it was offered.
     
  16. Dave Vollmer

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    I'm curious as to why the announcement would be delayed... It's not like there's going to be a last minute change.

    I can just see them gearing up to do the Broadway Limited... Production schedules, plans, maybe even pilot models. And then, the day of the announcement, someone says "Ya know, on second thought... Let's do the 20th Century!
     
  17. Rich Businger

    Rich Businger TrainBoard Member

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    Since I'm more of a western modeler... What locomotive typically pulled the Broadway Limited?


    Rich
     
  18. Dave Vollmer

    Dave Vollmer TrainBoard Member

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    By the 1950s, a GG1 pulled the Broadway Limited from New York's Penn Station as far as Harrisburg over the electrified New York and Philadelphia Divisions. At Harrisburg, the engine would be changed for a set of E7s or E8s for the run to Chicago since the catenary ended at Harrisburg.

    Kato already offers E8s painted for Pennsy in the post-1954 single-stripe scheme with the correct single-headlight nose. Many will argue that Kato's choice of Tuscan Red on this model leaves much to be desired. Nonetheless, it means Kato doesn't have to introduce a new loco to pull the Broadway.

    Now, if Kato does choose to offer a GG1, it might be the hottest news in eastern N scale modeling in years!
     
  19. hegstad1

    hegstad1 TrainBoard Supporter

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    Could they be just waiting until the National Train Show this weekend?
     
  20. SecretWeapon

    SecretWeapon Passed away January 23, 2024 In Memoriam

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    About a year ago,I suggestted a GG-1 on the Kato website.
     

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