NYC November 1941 "James Whitcomb Riley"

rhensley_anderson Jul 29, 2014

  1. rhensley_anderson

    rhensley_anderson TrainBoard Supporter

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    November 3, 1941 in Indianapolis IN
    K5b - 4-6-2 Pacific 4917 on the "James Whitcomb Riley"
    Gary Overfield Collection

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  2. Hytec

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    Interesting shell design, similar to Electro shown at the 1939 New York World's Fair.

    I think the Empire State's shell is prettier...no, BEAUTIFUL.

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  3. Hytec

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    I now realize I should explain that I was referring to the simplistic Art-Deco designs of the 1930's, when Plain was the "In" thing. Personally, I think both JWR and Electro are just uninteresting art. But that's me.

    I imagine the JWR was a real headache for maintenance.
     
  4. fitz

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    Thanks for that, Roger. I am wondering if Carl Kantola designed that, as it is so similar to the Commodore Vanderbilt streamlining on Hudson 5344.
     
  5. Helitac

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    Could be, or Loewy, or... , I really like Art Deco design, but Hytec is right to point out the maintenance issues. Bobby
     
  6. Mike Kmetz

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    The design of the locomotive (originally for the Mercury train) is attributed to Henry Dreyfuss.
    This was his first attempt at streamlining.
    I am not partial to the "cover everything up" school of streamlining, but I have to say this black and white photo doesn't do justice.
    You can read my complete description of the JWR on Roger's web site.
    The locomotive was a lustrous gray (perhaps an early attempt at a metallic paint).
    The drivers were orange and white!
    The tender had a wide orange stripe which blended with the orange window band on the cars.
    Mike Kmetz
     
  7. Hytec

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    Mike, thanks for pointing us to the JWR locomotive color photos. Her color scheme was actually quite pretty, adding personality to the design.

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  8. Mike Kmetz

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    Hank, that's a nice picture of the JWR locomotive model - quite accurate, too.
    Bob Webber's color photo of the actual locomotive can be seen on Terry Link's Canada Southern web site.
    I don't think he wants direct links to his web site here.
    Look for "other stuff" then James Whitcomb Riley.
     
  9. BoxcabE50

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    Was this a one only? Or were there others similarly modified?
     
  10. Mike Kmetz

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    There were two of these streamlined K-5b Pacifics - 4915 and 4917.
    Originally streamlined for the Mercury, they were adapted for the Riley's inaugural runs in April 1941.
    In January 1947 the Pacifics were replaced by J-1e Hudsons and the streamlining removed from the Pacifics.
     
  11. BoxcabE50

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    Thanks, Mike. I believe it would have been fascinating to have been in the shops, watching as they were outfitting these.
     

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