Does anyone have any photos of the NYC pacemaker caboose? I have a photo from the caboosenut site, but have googled and can't find any others. Trying to scratchbuild one to look close to prototype. Thanks!
Hi Dear hope this helps http://www.mth-railking.com/photos/30-7712.jpg http://i8.ebayimg.com/01/i/02/ae/03/d6_1_b.JPG http://www.imagetamer.com/images2/auctiontamer/041012/000070003810437288.jpg
I am searching my stuff, and so far can't find it. Take a look at George Elwoods NY Central freight section, and if you know the model of the caboose, you can get a good idea of how to build it. The only thing not there is the Pacemaker paint job. There are even drawings for both the cupola and bay window cabeese. link http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/nyc/nyc-frt.html
Here is link to the only photo I know of http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/images/nyc-20132.jpg Hope this helps!
NYC - BKO: THANKS SO MUCH!! I have been searching for this info for nearly a year - you made my day! Thanks to all who tried to help, but just didn't trust any photos of model railroad cars - was wanting the actual photo! Tell me BKO, this appears to be a long caboose - in comparison to the pacemaker box car, would you happen to know what the length of the boxcars was? Thanks again for the help, I really appreciate it! Glad to see you model the right RR - I am originally from just outside Buffalo, Lancaster, NY, and am modeling that portion of the country and the NYC from about 1950-1958.
Those photos on George Elwood's site are all prototypes, no models. Now that NYC Brian has got the photo of the real caboose, if you go to Elwood's site you can get all the dimensions for the real thing and scale them. I will continue to search for another photo. A lot of NYC boxcars from that era were 40 footers.
That's a 40' box car and if I recall correctly the cabooses were 36' as they used the frame of old box cars. It has plywood sides and the standard low line cupola.. The box car door appears to be a 6' one so you can make a scale from there to get measurements. Good luck with your model.
Here's one of the boxcars, still searching for the caboose. http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/nyc/nyc175608ajs.jpg
Thanks again for the help, I will keep myself busy researching this project now that I have something to work with.! The pacemaker on the caboosenut,com site has the small bay windows and a high cupola, supposedly from a group of 5 original pacemaker cabooses made in the E. Buffalo shops in 1944. I think they are a more interesting looking caboose, but am glad to see what the later cabooses were like.
The picture link I posted is what the original cabooses looked like as built. The one on caboosenut looks like the body of one but it has been modified with the tall cupola and the little bay windows. The only cabooses that had tall cupolas on the NYC were BigFour and MC ones. If I recall nothing that ran east of Bufffalo had a tall cupola, as the Pacemaker trains ran down the westside of Manhattan. That may be an original but it has been modified. I don't know the history of the car but it was probably aquired by another railroad and modified or a private owner did it. If it is an original as it looks like it is maybe someone on the forum lives close to that location and can get you measurments or maybe you need a little vacation to it. I'm clear on the other side of the state or I would do it for you.
I went through 14 years of NY Central "Headlight" magazines, and found Pacemaker boxcars, but no Pacemaker caboose. East of Buffalo ran cabooses with cupolas when I was a kid, I guess they may have been shorter than the ones on MC and big four. That was confirmed with my search through the "Headlights." B&A had cupola cabooses, as well. The Bay Window ones came along later. Wish I could have been of more help.
