1. Calicoaster

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    Does anyone know if OO Scale trains can run on HO scale track someone told me that but i want to confirm it.
     
  2. Gats

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    The short answer - yes! Same gauge though the scale is different, if that makes sense.
     
  3. engineshop

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    I think 00 is the English approach of making the O scale smaller at the time Marklin introduced HO.
     
  4. Hytec

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    OO was around long before WWII. I believe Lionel, perhaps others, offered some in the US before the war. Whereas HO showed up in the US at the end of WWII.
     
  5. engineshop

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    Okay
    I checked the History of Marklin.

    ----Die Eisenbahnen waren zu Anfang des Jahrhunderts nur ein kleiner, wenn auch wachsender Teil des Gesamtangebots. Das änderte sich in den Folgejahren nach der Vorstellung der Tischeisenbahn in Spur 00. Ab 1935 konnte die Modelleisenbahn auch auf dem Tisch aufgebaut werden. Wurde bis dahin mit der Eisenbahn fast ausschließlich an und um Weihnachten gespielt -Spur 0- oder Spur 1- "Anlagen" wurden fast ausnahmslos auf dem Boden verlegt - so war jetzt der Betrieb der Anlagen das ganze Jahr über möglich. Da die Bezeichnung 00 für die 1:87er Modelleisenbahn nicht sonderlich glücklich war, wurde sie ab 1950 in HO, also Halbnull umbenannt. ----


    Short translation:

    Marklin introduced the 00 scale in 1935 as a tabletop model railroad. Before that people used 0 and I scale usually at Christmas to the train run around the tree. Now you could have a layout all year long. Since Marklin believed that the name 00 was not really helpful for the product they changed the name in 1950 to HO, half of O.

    (If you are not a German speaking person, you might not see why 00 was not a great name. OO is also associated with the bathroom in Germany. I don't no why but if you have ever travelled in Germany you might have seen restrooms labeld 'OO'.)

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  6. Hytec

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    Perhaps "OO" in Germany is somehow related to "LOO" in the UK....?
     
  7. Thirdrail

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    True "OO" vs. British "OO"

    True OO scale trains will not, repeat not, operate on HO scale track. HO track is 16.5 mm, while true OO is 19 mm, The scale is 1:87.1 or 3.5 mm to the foot for HO, while true OO is 1:76 or 4.0 mm to the foot.

    The confusion is with the use by the British of 4.0 mm models on HO scale track. Due to the small "loading gauge" of the British rail system, 4.0 mm models are about the same size as 3.5 mm models of Continental and US locomotives and rolling stock.

    I do not believe that true OO scale models have been commercially available for the past half century, though, and wonder how many modelers still pursue the scale. There was a fellow named Carl Appel that had a wonderful OO layout, called the Norfolk & Ohio, IIRC.
     
  8. Gats

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    Who said anything about true OO trains? The question was: "Does anyone know if OO Scale trains can run on HO scale track" Off-the-shelf OO trains are designed to run on HO/16.5mm track. Yes, it's a compromise made that the 4mm finescale true OO modellers don't make.
    It was a simple question - no need to confuse the matter.

    Hank, OO may be the German equivalent to WC (water closet)?
     
  9. Alan

    Alan Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    My current layout is OO which uses regular 16.5mm track gauge. Quite a few people here in the UK run on 18mm track (EM), and some P4 18.83mm, but both are very much in the minority!

    (Too much like hard work for me) ;)
     
  10. Triplex

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    I thought OO referred only to the combination of 4mm scale and 16.5mm gauge?
     
  11. Alan

    Alan Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Actually, it does. The other track gauges used with 4mm scale are called by their appropriate names. (EM, etc.)

    We get so used to calling everything OO which is 4mm scale, which of course it is not. :rolleyes:
     
  12. Triplex

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    I guess that's because it doesn't exactly fit a pattern. In North America, letters technically refer to scales, not gauges. In Britain, letters technically refer to gauges, not scales. OO is the only case I know of (excluding combinations meant to represent non-standard gauges) where a combination of gauge and scale gets its own letter.
     
  13. Alan

    Alan Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    We always do things differently here :D
     

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