Paint scheme questions

Triplex Feb 19, 2007

  1. Triplex

    Triplex TrainBoard Member

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    When did BNSF stop using Warbonnet colors on new intermodal locomotives?

    When did BNSF stop using Executive colors on new coal locomotives?
    -Found the answer: http://www.blwnscale.com/Kato SD70 Mac.htm March 1997.

    When was Heritage 2 introduced for widenose engines?

    These should be easy questions, but I've never seen the answers.
     
  2. HemiAdda2d

    HemiAdda2d Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    The only one I can help with is the H2's. I recall seeing them new, hitting Minot ND in droves in early/mid-2000. Then again, those were new locos. Hopefully someone has a better answer?
     
  3. Jim Wiggin

    Jim Wiggin Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    The H2 paint scheme came out in 1997. As such, all following delieveries of wide cabs were painted in this scheme abandoning the warbonnet and executive schemes.

    Jim
     
  4. Mr. Train

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    What no more executive schemes?:cry:
     
  5. Triplex

    Triplex TrainBoard Member

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    What I'm really looking to know is: H1 was applied to general freight engines, at first both standard and widenose. After H2 arrived, H1 was used only on standard-nose engines. Was there a period of even a few months when H1 was used on intermodal and coal engines?
     
  6. YoHo

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    When did the H1 widenoses get delivered?
     
  7. Jim Wiggin

    Jim Wiggin Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    The Grenstien green executive green and cream scheme was standard on all SD70's for the BN. Until the merger, the SD70's were overall green with a wide cream stripe and BN logo on the nose and cab with numbers on the long hood. After the merger the paint scheme was revised to the scheme shown below. Notice the cream band was adjusted to angle up to meet the top of the cab and the BNSF was spelled out on the long hood, numbers on the cab and a BN logo on the nose. Later units had the early BNSF logo on the nose. Of coarse as with any merger, there were re-paints and variations. These were the common paint schemes until 1997 on SD70's. This picture illustrates, don't mind the scarry bald guy.

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    SD70 BNSF Executive scheme.
     
  8. Jim Wiggin

    Jim Wiggin Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Yes and still do from time to time. 900's were C44-9CW's were painted in H1 and many are still running in this paint. I don't remember seeing any H1's in coal service, but definately intermodal.
     
  9. Mr. Train

    Mr. Train TrainBoard Member

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    I sense a history lesson on paint schemes coming, when you have time that is:teeth:
     
  10. Triplex

    Triplex TrainBoard Member

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    Maybe I should rephrase. Were the 900s delivered during the same time as, or after, the SD75s in BNSF warbonnet? If during the same time, then they were receiving the general freight scheme. If after, then they'd abandoned the idea of a separate intermodal scheme. You have to realize, BNSF wasn't ordering new standard-nose engines.
     
  11. YoHo

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    Did BNSF order anything in Warbonnet or were those just the last units on the Santa Fe orders?
     
  12. cajon

    cajon TrainBoard Member

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    You'll find good answers to the ATSF, BN & BNSF paint schemes on
    www.qstation.org. Saw the 1st H2s in San Berdoo 1/98. They in the low 740 series being part of the #700 Dash 9s that Santa Fe had ordered.
     
  13. Jim Wiggin

    Jim Wiggin Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    If I remember right (Remember I'm living in a hotel room and my books are 193 miles up north in a box), The SD75's in warbonnet were left over Santa Fe orders that in some cases "patched" and yes these did run the same time as the H1 wide cabs. Were any warbonnet SD75's re-painted in H1? Possiably, but I would have to check my refrences. I remember back in 1996, there was a debate on keeping two wide cab schemes, one in warbonnet and one in executive. That of coarse did not happen. Like Cajon said, Q Station is a great research tool, without my roster book I'm only using my memory.

    Jim
     
  14. cajon

    cajon TrainBoard Member

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    Never Saw nor heard of any SD75M/Is painted in H1 back then. But several now have been painted H2. Shortly after the merger the Santa Fe SD75M 200s became 8200s. The SD75Is came out right after merger & were lettered BNSF. Here's some SD75 pix from QStation:
    http://www.somewherewest.com/SD75/1SD75MRoster.htm
     
  15. YoHo

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    Just remembered, I have a 1997/98 motive power annual for BNSF. In that book, there's H1, H2, Warbonnet and Executive paint on various widenoses. So the H2 scheme must have started by then.
    I think the Mexi-Macs were some of the first to be in H2.
     
  16. cajon

    cajon TrainBoard Member

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    The 1st "H1" was SD 60 9297 w/ red stripes separating the orange & green (spring '96). http://www.qstation.org/9297/ This was the one & only in that scheme. The !st real H1s started w/ dash 9 964. Another scheme tried was what became known as the "vomit bonnet" http://www.qstation.org/9647/. You guys should really take a look at QStation. That is IF you have a whole lot of time. <G>
     

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