Can anyone tell me what color SP&S painted their company vehicles and m of w trucks? I can't find any info on them.
These guys might know if you haven't asked them already. http://www.trainweb.org/railsnw/spshs/ Dave Los Angeles, CA -Rail Radio Online-Home of the "TrainTenna" RR Monitoring Antenna- http://eje.railfan.net/railradioonline ------------------------------------------------- -The Elgin, Joliet & Eastern Photo Archive & E-Mail List- http://eje.railfan.net
After going through 6 different SP&S books, and a couple of web sites I come to find that pictures of SP&S company vehicles are about as scarce as pictures of thier hogfeul cars. Of course most of the color photos are of the early BN era when somebody finally realized it was going away and rushed out to take photos. However I did find at least a few. A couple of Chevy trucks, late 1958-1960s, with either a utility bed or regular pickup bed. The color appears to be a green, that is quite faded to almost that of the NP lighter green of the Loewy scheme. Another one has a slightly darker green that might be closer to the dark green used on the locomotives in the 4 stripe era. Shame that both my NP and GN M of W books cover vehicles too, and in color. Best shot is to ask on the SP&S board over at Yahoo for a more definitive answer. Or I'll ask for you if you are not a memeber of that group. John Moore [ 03. May 2004, 14:18: Message edited by: John Moore ]
Hi Marty: Thanks again for all your assisstance in this matter. Any new projects you are working on for the SP&S?
Looks like from the discussion over on the SP&S board at Yahoo that the color is going to be a dark green. The same SP&S oval, or football appeared on the door of some vehicles and elswhere on the body of others. That SP&S logo changed with the logos on the locomotives, so the smaller footballs of some of the decal sets may be used on some vehicles. You may be able to scan some of them onto a computer and reduce their size, and reprint them onto white decal paper to get the white lettering, unless you have acess to an ALPS printer. It also appears that some of the vehicles were obtained in the manufacturers shade of green which may be why I observed the light faded color on some of the older vehicles. John Moore
John: I appreciate very much all your help in this matter. Thank you again for all yours and everyone else's help. Bill
Bill I just cut up four cabeese and shortened them. The way it looks, 2 will be NP, 1 Mil. and one SPS. Just finished 3 WP 'chip ' cars. They are tough. No decals, so each letter is one at a time. I've got a heaveyweight NP observation about half done. I have cars to make an entire train. the A F-3 is painted and I have the B unit stripped and ready for paint. Time seems to be the great obstacle. Marty
Thanks again for the decals Marty, I got them yesterday. They are great, and will help out a lot. You sound like me, too many projects and not enough time. I'm also currently building a small 2-1/2' x 4' logging railroad based on Simpson Timber Company's line in Shelton Washington. The motive power wil be a couple of LL Sw-1200 modified with dynamic brakes. It's been really fun so far.
Bill- By any chance, have you ever seen a track map of the Shelton area? Something that would give as much detail as possible, in a decent scale representation? I'd love to see something showing both Simpson Timber and the NP, circa the late 1960's! Boxcab E50
Hi Boxcab: Unfortunately info is very vague on their operations as far as I can find. I have a great article from 1991 in Railfan & Railroad. The track plan is purely hypothetical, but it does have the possiblity of expansion "by accident". My track plan goes from a small yard and log pond up a loop and a half to a reload. both the yard and reload have the possibility of expanding beyond. Wow, I never thought about an interchange with the NP. That's deffinately something to think about in the future. I'll take some pics of the progress and post them in my album when I can. I"m looking forward to building all of the logging equipment from scratch, add to the logging landings. Some off highway logging trucks and yarders are on the list. I've already started on one Ramsey self-propelled yarder.
Bill- What is the article you mentioned? Can you tell me which issue it's in. I have all the 1991 R&R magazines. Boxcab E50
Boxcab: I got on a website here at work called Topozone. It's USGS maps of the US. The map showing Shelton shows all the trackage and the BN/NP interchange track. You can follow the Simpson tracks up into the woods. Bill