DRGW The god of the West Wind....

Actually it was 3 cars, the "engine was considered a car

 

Questions on this baby - Aeolus - aka the 4000 - aka "alice the goon"
What zephyr cars did she help pull?
As in, I read that she was made to help out pulling zephyr pass. trains when the deisels were busy.
I would assume the Cali zephyr cars that the F3's usually pulled, but that was not till the 50's? and there was also the 1934 pioneer zephyr.
and I found this photo that shows the Aeolus pulling what appears to be articulated passenger cars of the Pioneer Zephyr???
http://www.castlegraphics.com/photo/displayimage.php?pid=20&fullsize=1
also larger 1280 at: http://www.castlegraphics.com/photo/displayimage.php?pid=20&fullsize=1
http://www.castlegraphics.com/photo/displayimage.php?album=1&pos=10

What did Aeolus pull?
Thanks

 

looking at both photos, it almost looks like the "1st car" behind the tender is the front/engine of the 1934 pioneer zephyr with the front 1/4 or 1/5 chopped off???

I have a 1934 Con-Cor Pioneer Zephyr in N scale.
Maybe Con-Cor could make that 1st car as a chopped/dummie for us, then we could decide to have the diesel or steam powered. Con-Cor still sells the Hudson streamlined Aeolus steamer. a local hobby shop has one in stock/on sale.
Too bad the Pioneer Zephyr articulated cars are soooo pricey! ($99 street each)

 

Nice Find!
Looks like an A-B Consist (double power) of Pioneer Zephyr locos/Cars.
Loco/Cars as in not quite a standard Diesel loco like an F3, F7 and not really a car. a loco that looks like a car. There must be a better than for them?
That first car (after the first two (locos)) looks like the car that starts behind the streamlined steamer tender.
btw, I saw the N scale Con-Cor Aeolus 4-6-4 steamer at a local hobby shop. it looks , well, bad. cheap plastic look, not as nice as the photo above. the streamlined shrouding does not go as low on the loco & the tender, and other inaccuracies. too bad, could have had an easy to make set for Con-Cor. as in take the 1934 pioneer Zephyr cars and make a transition car like that one above and then package it with that steamer. but the cars would look 1000 times better than the loco.
Maybe GHQ will read this? or maybe I should make GHQ (also in the Twin Cities area) aware of this? maybe they can make a kit like they did for the Hiawatha.

 

The 1930s era Denver Zephyrs featured an A-B shovelnose power consist ... the first car behind the B unit provided what we now know as HEP for the train ... you can still see one on the Nebraska Zephyr set at the Illinois RR Museum in Union.

No, the Pioneer Zephyr was not cut up, etc., to provide equipment for the DZ.

Regards,
Burlington John
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Thanks for the welcome!

The steam engine pictured on page 3 was originally CB&Q S4 Hudson 3002. It was rebuilt by the forces at the Burlington's West Burlington Iowa shops and released for service in 1937.

Another Aeolus, 4001, was built from scratch at West Burlington using components supplied by Baldwin. It was released for service in 1938. Interestingly, 4001 was built with an enclosed cab (much like the Burlington's O5 Northerns), the only Q steamer besides the O5 Northerns so equipped.

They were built to protect the schedules of the Denver Zephyr and Twin Cities Zephyr, but usually ran on the Black Hawk and other special trains.

The shrouds came off in 1942 and the engines remained in regular service. 4000 was retired and is on display in LaCrosse, Wisconsin.

4001 was overhauled at the Denver shops in March of 1954 and towed dead to Lincoln where it was set up for service. Unfortunately, the call to service never came and 4001 went to the scrapper in October of 1960 without having been operated since her overhaul!

Regards & Everywhere West,
Burlington John